[kfay]

Scoring: IMP

(3♦)-3♠-(5♦)-?

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Everyday auction for an everyday hand.

[helene_t]

5♥, opps could easily make a heart ruff against 6♠, and in 6♥ we could lose a trick in each major.

[skjaeran]

Can't see anything better than 6♥.

[han]

Yeah agree with 6H. That's the manly bid Helene and it has nothing to do with sex.

[Apollo81]

6♥. It's unlikely that 7 is a good contract, and even if this is not cold, opps may save.

[655321]

6♥
Of course anything could be right, but you have to guess, and 6♥ seems normal.

[rogerclee]

I think this is a 6♥ too, but in general, nobody really knows what to do with a 9-card suit. How many people do you know can say, "well, in my vast experience with picking up 9-card suits..."

[pclayton]

6♥♥♥♥♥♥

[jdonn]

6♥ seems like the obvious guess.

[Cascade]

6♥ doesn't look that obvious to me. As Helene says we could easily have a loser in each major or even two heart losers.

Somewhere between 5♥ and 6♥ seems right but I am not convince yet which is right.

I would guess that a spade loser on average is normal after partner overcalls in spades and we have three small. Even two spade losers or a spade and ruff are possible.

Similarly in hearts opposite unknown support I would have thought that we are reasonably likely for a heart loser.

I wouldn't be surprised if 5♥ is best but maybe everyone else's optimism is justified.

I will do a simulation later when I get home.

[the hog]

As usual agree with Helene. I believe i have 2 losers.

[Codo]

6 ♥ is surely a fit jump, so that is what I have.
I am with Wayne, this is not clear cut for me, but I would try for slam anyway.

[Cascade]

Cascade, on Feb 13 2008, 03:43 PM, said:

I will do a simulation later when I get home.

The simulation overwhelmingly suggested 6♥ was best. Here is a summary - i dealt 100 hands and looked at them single dummy:

6♥ virtually cold (i didnt look at the opponents hand so didnt take account of 3-0 trump breaks or first round ruffs) 46 times

A further ten times 6♥ was virtually cold except the possibility of a spade ruff (we were missing the ace with eight or nine or more spades)

Seven times 6♥ was 50% on a spade guess - KJ

Another seven times 6♥ had some play but was marginal - spades AJ9 or some lead would kill it - a wide range of chances here from one of two finesses to double finesse + trump finesse etc

Fourteen times 7♥ was a great contract

And finally only sixteen times was 6♥ no play.

I guess the 6♥ is obvious optimism was justified.

[whereagles]

Simulation might favour 6♥, but let's not forget the other table will have the same problem. It's a bit of a guess, so I'll try and replicate the bid at the other table if I'm winning or deviate from it if I need a swing.

Sounds like the pree is the only way for us to bid 6.. I don't think we'd get there without it.. lol.

[helene_t]

Thanx a lot Wayne. Cool !

[FrancesHinden]

Codo, on Feb 13 2008, 08:28 AM, said:

6 ♥ is surely a fit jump, so that is what I have.

I assume this is a joke?

6H for me, showing hearts.

[Codo]

FrancesHinden, on Feb 13 2008, 08:17 PM, said:

Codo, on Feb 13 2008, 08:28 AM, said:

6 ♥ is surely a fit jump, so that is what I have.

I assume this is a joke?

6H for me, showing hearts.

No, I always use when I am REAL serious about something.

Of course it was a joke. IT was just too tempting to call a hand with an own suit and support for partners suit and a jump in a competetive auction as a fitjump.

And because I knew that I have sometimes some weird ideas and people may take this word serious, I gave it a .

[Cascade]

whereagles, on Feb 13 2008, 11:11 PM, said:

Simulation might favour 6♥, but let's not forget the other table will have the same problem. It's a bit of a guess, so I'll try and replicate the bid at the other table if I'm winning or deviate from it if I need a swing.

Sounds like the pree is the only way for us to bid 6.. I don't think we'd get there without it.. lol.

It doesn't always work but I find it a useful strategy to try and beat the other table.

[han]

whereagles, on Feb 13 2008, 05:11 AM, said:

It's a bit of a guess, so I'll try and replicate the bid at the other table if I'm winning or deviate from it if I need a swing.

Do you seriously think that you can predict not only (1) that the other table will have the same auction not seeing the other hands, (2) the current score in the match, but also (3) what the person at the other table will do with this freak? And you are willing to back that up even though you believe 6H is quite superior.

I have a hard time believing that you can read things that well. And I don't mean that as an insult to you because I don't think anybody can read these things that well.

If you really believe that you can read this very accurately then I would love to see you in action. Do you ever play on BBO?