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Opening weak two? IMPs, dealer, white vs. red?

Poll: Do you open? (37 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you open?

  1. 2S (26 votes [70.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.27%

  2. Pass (5 votes [13.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.51%

  3. 3S (6 votes [16.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.22%

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#1 User is offline   rmunson1 

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Posted 2008-December-09, 01:30

Scoring: IMP

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Posted 2008-December-09, 02:23

3♠
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 08:40

I pass, but it is really a style thing. I tend to play more constructive preempts than most.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 08:54

2♠ is sufficient preemption. If the suit was ♥ I'd be more tempted to open 3, but still probably not.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 09:11

2♠ will do, but I won't always open it.

First seat, maybe.
Second seat, no.
Third seat, always.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 09:29

2♠. But I'm not far from 3♠. Upgade the clubs to JTxx, and I'm there.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 09:36

A bit light for a standard 2♠ but the nice shape makes it ok.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 12:59

2♠, pass is not an option at these colors.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 13:00

2♠. I think 3♠ is fine in abstract, but this hand is too much weaker in terms of playing strength than most other hands where I open 3♠ so I think it would make life too hard on partner.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 14:47

Hi,

2S.

As always a matter of partnership agreement.

I think, it i is more a question between Pass
and 2S, I dont think 3S is really an option.
You are in first position, not in third, not in
second either, but ... you have spades, and the
suit is not really good.

I would go with 2S, but if you play a more
conservative style, Pass would be fine as well.

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Posted 2008-December-09, 15:08

3♠ with regular partners, 2♠ with others (since they don't play trash preempts)
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Posted 2008-December-09, 15:21

2S is canonical, i think
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Posted 2008-December-09, 15:37

whereagles, on Dec 9 2008, 04:21 PM, said:

2S is canonical, i think

You use that word all the time, I have looked it up several times, and I still have no idea what you are using it to mean :P
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Posted 2008-December-09, 15:47

P_Marlowe, on Dec 9 2008, 03:47 PM, said:

I think, it i is more a question between Pass
and 2S, I dont think 3S is really an option.

Sounds like anyone could go to your bridge club and have a reign of terror with a balloon on a stick.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 16:00

2S - automatic 1st seat at this vul.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 16:00

jdonn, on Dec 9 2008, 04:37 PM, said:

whereagles, on Dec 9 2008, 04:21 PM, said:

2S is canonical, i think

You use that word all the time, I have looked it up several times, and I still have no idea what you are using it to mean :P

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Posted 2008-December-09, 16:33

jdonn, on Dec 9 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

whereagles, on Dec 9 2008, 04:21 PM, said:

2S is canonical, i think

You use that word all the time, I have looked it up several times, and I still have no idea what you are using it to mean :P

"Canonical" stems from the greek "canon" and has several meanings, one of which is: something that's done 'by the rules', or 'according to the norm.'

What I mean when I say "xxx is canonical", is "xxx is a standard procedure."
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Posted 2008-December-09, 16:43

whereagles, on Dec 9 2008, 03:33 PM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 9 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

whereagles, on Dec 9 2008, 04:21 PM, said:

2S is canonical, i think

You use that word all the time, I have looked it up several times, and I still have no idea what you are using it to mean :P

"Canonical" stems from the greek "canon" and has several meanings, one of which is: something that's done 'by the rules', or 'according to the norm.'

What I mean when I say "xxx is canonical", is "xxx is a standard procedure."

why not say that then :)

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Posted 2008-December-09, 17:06

jdonn, on Dec 10 2008, 10:37 AM, said:

whereagles, on Dec 9 2008, 04:21 PM, said:

2S is canonical, i think

You use that word all the time, I have looked it up several times, and I still have no idea what you are using it to mean :)

ca⋅non⋅i⋅cal   /kəˈnɒnɪkəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuh-non-i-kuhl] Show IPA Pronunciation

–adjective Also, ca⋅non⋅ic. 1. pertaining to, established by, or conforming to a canon or canons.
2. included in the canon of the Bible.
3. authorized; recognized; accepted: canonical works.
4. Mathematics. (of an equation, coordinate, etc.) in simplest or standard form.
5. following the pattern of a musical canon.
6. Linguistics. (of a form or pattern) characteristic, general or basic: the canonical form of the past tense; a canonical syllable pattern.

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Seems obvious from this.

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Posted 2008-December-09, 18:33

2♠

I hold this hand every day and every day I try to bid the same thing. Why be a spazz?
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