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Poll: no monkey option (40 member(s) have cast votes)

no monkey option

  1. 4D (33 votes [82.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.50%

  2. 4H (7 votes [17.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.50%

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#1 User is offline   karlson 

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Posted 2009-January-08, 16:14

Scoring: MP


1♥ - 3♦ - ?
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Posted 2009-January-08, 16:23

I like my hand. 4♦.
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Posted 2009-January-08, 16:28

5th trump and shortage = 4♦ for me.

However, I do not believe my 4♦ bid shows a control there, that is just a coincidence (except for it being part of why I value the hand).
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Posted 2009-January-08, 16:38

Agree with Gnome...
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Posted 2009-January-08, 17:49

Agree with mtvesuvius
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Posted 2009-January-08, 17:58

Ask yourself: Would you bid 4H without the Ace of spades
and do you believe, that you can make 4H?

The main purpose of bidding 4D is not to make a move toward
slam, but to tell p, that you are bidding 4H with the intention
to make.
It creates a forcing pass sequence, which will help the partnership
to find the right decision, if 3D gets raised to 5D.

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Posted 2009-January-08, 18:39

Fluffy, on Jan 8 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

Agree with mtvesuvius

agree with Fluffy.
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Posted 2009-January-08, 21:16

This just comes down to how your partnership splits the 4♥/4♦ ranges. That is more important to talk about than what you would bid on this hand.
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Posted 2009-January-09, 05:38

I agree with Roger
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Posted 2009-January-09, 10:00

I think it's worth 4♦.
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Posted 2009-January-09, 11:35

Agree with who agrees with gonzalo :blink:
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Posted 2009-January-09, 14:04

I agree with no monkey option. Do something. Minimal upbid concern, minimal 'tell partner' values, 4H.
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Posted 2009-January-09, 14:11

Uwe just because you'd do something with an ace less doesn't make the same action wrong. You have two bids for hands that would like to be in game, so surely both intervals are at least as wide as an ace difference.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 09:54

The main reason to bid 4♦ is to set up a forcing pass at the 5 level.
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