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What would you open? Bad choice...

Poll: You open... (60 member(s) have cast votes)

You open...

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 1C (2 votes [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  3. 1D (56 votes [93.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 93.33%

  4. 1NT (2 votes [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  5. Some other fancy opening bid (0 votes [0.00%])

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Posted 2009-January-13, 07:57

MP's, after pass from the non-vulnerable opponent to your right you, being vulnerable, hold:

♠Kx
♥7x
♦J9xxx
♣AKQ9

And...

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:17

Hanoi5, on Jan 13 2009, 08:57 AM, said:

MP's, after pass from the non-vulnerable opponent to your right you, being vulnerable, hold:

♠Kx
♥7x
♦J9xxx
♣AKQ9

And...

And..... why anyone would ever open anything other than 1♦ is beyond me.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:24

bid_em_up, on Jan 13 2009, 02:17 PM, said:

Hanoi5, on Jan 13 2009, 08:57 AM, said:

MP's, after pass from the non-vulnerable opponent to your right you, being vulnerable, hold:

♠Kx
♥7x
♦J9xxx
♣AKQ9

And...

And..... why anyone would ever open anything other than 1♦ is beyond me.

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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:28

1♦
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:52

bid_em_up, on Jan 13 2009, 03:17 PM, said:

And..... why anyone would ever open anything other than 1♦ is beyond me.

If you are going to rebid 1NT anyway you might as well show where you live. Then again, I am not going to rebid notrumps if p doubles a heart bid by opps, so 1♦ for me, too.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:53

I still open 1♦ with this. I'm beginning to wonder if this is a good idea, however, when holding 44 in the minors with suit disparity like this.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:04

1♦ wtp?
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:34

1♦, there is no reason to do anything else
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:37

1♦, 1♣ can be the winner if the opponents end up playing
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:48

Come on, if you open 1♣ you will have no rebid in competition if the opponents bid hearts.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:50

1♦, there is no reason to improvise.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 10:06

1D, wtp?

I would even open 1D with 4-4 with xxxx in diamonds,
in which case you can start talking to me, that 1C has
to be better.

As a matter of fact, this is a systemic thing.
You either play better minor, in which case the suit quality
may play a role in deciding which minor to open or you
dont, and if you dont, dont do it, because otherwise you are
risking your partnership.

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Posted 2009-January-13, 10:13

Even B/I wont have a problem with this 1♦ :)
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Posted 2009-January-13, 10:17

jillybean2, on Jan 13 2009, 11:13 AM, said:

Even B/I wont have a problem with this 1♦ :)

Unfortunately B/I know, that they are B/I.
After a while they meet a A/E, who tells them otherwise and
than they have a problem.

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Posted 2009-January-13, 10:34

This is an obvious 1♦ opening.

However, this is the type of hand where someone comes up to you after a session, gives you this problem, and then announces that "I opened 1♣ and this was the only way to get partner off to the right lead against...."

So, if you are after a brilliancy prize or want to be written up in the newspaper, by all means open 1♣. If you want to keep your current partner, I suggest opening 1♦.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 16:36

Out of curiosity, does anybody's opinion change with:

7
K94
J9543
AKQ7

?

I feel a deja vu here...I may have asked this before, and if so, I apologize...
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Posted 2009-January-13, 16:36

Nope. 1♦ still.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 16:55

If you cannot rebid 1NT any more it seems that opening 1♣ is completelly pointless and will stuck you.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 17:36

jtfanclub, on Jan 13 2009, 05:36 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, does anybody's opinion change with:

7
K94
J9543
AKQ7

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I feel a deja vu here...I may have asked this before, and if so, I apologize...

If I were forced to open 1♦ on one hand, and 1♣ on the other, this would be the 1♦ hand, not the original, because

1) the singleton gives this hand a little bit more playing strength in a suit, so if the auction were at 2♥ before I saw it again, I'd rather have this hand to compete with 3♣ (assuming, for instance, that partner had made a negative double), and

2) The 1♣ bid is probably going to restrict us to only bidding one suit, so I'd rather have the semi-balanced first hand for my 1NT rebid.

Having said that, I'd open 1♦ with either hand; just wanted to comment because this post suggested that the second hand might be "more" of a 1♣ opener, when I think if anything, it's the reverse.
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Posted 2009-January-14, 03:41

jtfanclub, on Jan 13 2009, 10:36 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, does anybody's opinion change with:

7
K94
J9543
AKQ7

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I feel a deja vu here...I may have asked this before, and if so, I apologize...

No. This is even more obviously a 1D opening.

The hand type that gets more discussion is when opener is 1=3=4=5 with good diamonds and bad clubs, when some people prefer to open 1D.
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