[Fluffy]

♠A10xx
♥KQJxx
♦KJ
♣Ax


1♥-1♠
2NT-3♥
4♠-4NT (4♠= 4522)
5♣-5♦ (5♣=3 of 6)
??

How do you answers queens with double fit?

[TylerE]

I don't these methods, but: 5M this queen but not the other, 5N: Both, no minor king, 6m: Both, this king, 6♥ Both, and both kings. Would seem logical.

[Fluffy]

you are lacking a neither option tyler

[karlson]

I play that two queens count as an extra keycard. Someone once told me this was a terrible method, but I still haven't really seen why.

[gwnn]

we played that it's always the higher ranking queen that you're asking about. i didn't like the rule at first but it's simple.

[manudude03]

5♥= no queen
5♠=♠Q
5NT=♥Q
6♣=Both queens and ♣K
6♦=Both queens and ♦K
6♥=Both queens and no outside King.
6♠=Both queens and both outside Kings.

[Fluffy]

that look wonderful mannude, but it is too specific, what are the general agreements?. I'd rather have 5♥ 0, 5♠ 1, 5NT 2 than something that depends on each sequence.

[manudude03]

It is only in the specific case of both majors that you can distinguish between both kings and neither without looking at your hand.

Generally:

Cheapest bid= no queen
5NT= lower Queen
Bid the higher queen as low as you can (not ideal as this assumes each suit can play just as well as the other)
6 lower agreed= both queens and either both or neither king (should be able to tell which).
6 other= both queens and that king.

This can force you into 6N or grand when spades are not one of the agreed suits, however with 2 sources of tricks, 6N may well (not always) be ok anyway.

[ONEferBRID]

manudude03, on Dec 22 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

5♥= no queen
5♠=♠Q
5NT=♥Q
6♣=Both queens and ♣K
6♦=Both queens and ♦K
6♥=Both queens and no outside King.
6♠=Both queens and both outside Kings.

I like manodude's treatment.

Following up, after 5♥ or 5♠ , then 5NT would be a normal specific K-ask.

But after 5NT ( ♥ Q ) , then 6 ♣ = specific K-ask and perhaps the replies could be:
6♦ = no ♣ K, but have ♦ K
6♥ = neither ♣ K or ♦ K
6♠ = ♣ K but no ♦ K
6NT = both ♣ K and ♦ K