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What bid is best?

Poll: What bid is best? (53 member(s) have cast votes)

What bid is best?

  1. 3[DI] (1 votes [1.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.89%

  2. 3[HE] (1 votes [1.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.89%

  3. 3[SP] (39 votes [73.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.58%

  4. 4[CL] (4 votes [7.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.55%

  5. 4[DI] (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 4[HE] (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 4[SP] (6 votes [11.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.32%

  8. 4NT (1 votes [1.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.89%

  9. other (1 votes [1.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.89%

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#1 User is offline   bid_em_up 

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Posted 2010-April-24, 21:23

Scoring: IMP

opps silent.

1S-1N
3C-?


what's your choice and why please?
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2010-April-24, 21:32

This is a good example of why it's bad to play 4S shows a 3 card limit raise and 3S denies a 3 card limit raise. Bidding 4S with this hand is just so silly.

Anyway now I'm going to bid 3S (which I play can contain a 3 card limit raise).
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Posted 2010-April-24, 22:39

3S. Not a problem.
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Posted 2010-April-24, 22:48

Sure 3♠. Short of partner bidding keycard we can always offer clubs later.
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Posted 2010-April-25, 00:54

3♠, we're forced to game with 3♣, so this is stronger than 4♠. Leaves room for cue-bidding.
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Posted 2010-April-25, 01:42

unanimous. if 3♠ doesnt show this hand, i suggest reconsidering agreements.
OK
bed
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Posted 2010-April-25, 03:05

i clicked other on accident cuse i looked at our hand wrong. i agree with 3s
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Posted 2010-April-25, 05:01

rogerclee, on Apr 25 2010, 03:32 AM, said:

This is a good example of why it's bad to play 4S shows a 3 card limit raise and 3S denies a 3 card limit raise. Bidding 4S with this hand is just so silly.

Put a spade into the hearts and it becomes a good example of why it sucks to jump-shift into a 3 card suit.
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Posted 2010-April-25, 09:07

Call me silly, then.
3S = weakest reply, and as little as 2 card ♠, no interest in ♣
4S = 3 card limit raise
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Here is a new one that I just thought of
4C! = 3 cards ♠ AND 4+ cards ♣....
[ Edit: I have alternate bids ( not shown) to show ♣ acceptance only ]

... but I need to see how this may fit into my SJS reply scheme for these
1M - 1NTF, 3m auctions.
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Posted 2010-April-25, 09:50

rogerclee, on Apr 24 2010, 09:32 PM, said:

This is a good example of why it's bad to play 4S shows a 3 card limit raise and 3S denies a 3 card limit raise. Bidding 4S with this hand is just so silly.

Anyway now I'm going to bid 3S (which I play can contain a 3 card limit raise).

All true. A jump to 4S is really wasteful.

But since 3S does not necessarily guarantee a 3-card limit raise, I don't think we can show 4-card club support, later. If there is follow-up action, my concentration of red suit controls and lack of black suit honors will be the focus --and will confirm the spade fit.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
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Posted 2010-April-25, 13:39

whereagles, on Apr 25 2010, 06:01 AM, said:

rogerclee, on Apr 25 2010, 03:32 AM, said:

This is a good example of why it's bad to play 4S shows a 3 card limit raise and 3S denies a 3 card limit raise. Bidding 4S with this hand is just so silly.

Put a spade into the hearts and it becomes a good example of why it sucks to jump-shift into a 3 card suit.

Could you elaborate on how a jump shift into a 3 card suit would work badly if we were 2344 here?
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Posted 2010-April-25, 15:53

I guess partner can't pass 3♠. Then that's the bid. I was thinking about 5♠ though...

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2010-April-26, 02:47

Hi,

3S, we play (which seems to be general consensus), that 3S showes the
limit raise.

I thought that this agreement was non standard, and voted 4C, afterall
we also have a club fit, but of course 4C tells p, that we have 10-12 bal.
hand (or a max. standard 1NT response with good club supp.).

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Marlowe
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Posted 2010-April-26, 02:50

Wow Uwe you sure are dealt 10-12 often when partner jump shifts..
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Posted 2010-April-26, 03:17

Playing here where 3 club promises 4 clubs (we have semiforcing opening around), I could bid 4 club.
But why should the 4-4 fit be better here then the 5-3 fit in the major?
So a strong 3 ♠ is my choice too.
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Posted 2010-April-26, 05:37

jjbrr, on Apr 25 2010, 08:42 AM, said:

unanimous. ~snip~

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Posted 2010-April-26, 05:39

jjbrr, on Apr 25 2010, 07:42 AM, said:

unanimous. if 3♠ doesnt show this hand, i suggest reconsidering agreements.

I know you didnt mean it but 3♠ of course doesn't show this hand. But 3♠ should include this hand as a possibility. Just want to clarify this point since apparently Uwe and Codo think 3♠ is inherently a strong bid.
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Posted 2010-April-26, 05:46

jdonn, on Apr 25 2010, 07:39 PM, said:

Could you elaborate on how a jump shift into a 3 card suit would work badly if we were 2344 here?

You can't bid 4♣. Thus you might miss a good slam.
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Posted 2010-April-26, 05:55

yes you can and over 4♣ opener will be able to bid 4♠ to make his 3♣ bid somewhat ambiguous.
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Posted 2010-April-26, 06:12

gwnn, on Apr 26 2010, 08:39 PM, said:

I know you didnt mean it but 3♠ of course doesn't show this hand. But 3♠ should include this hand as a possibility. Just want to clarify this point since apparently Uwe and Codo think 3♠ is inherently a strong bid.

No I do not think so, I agree with you and think that 3 ♠ can include different hands, but surely it includes the LR for me.
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