[Fluffy]

♠9762
♥AKQJ
♦972
♣75


♠A5
♥109642
♦K63
♣AK4


MPs, North dealer

pass-1♥
2♣-2♦
??


2♦ shows interest in game and ask about features, what would you bid with north's hand now?


Anyway you are in any number of hearts of your choice and LHO leads a heart, take it from there.

[pooltuna]

Fluffy, on Sep 24 2010, 05:56 PM, said:

♠9762
♥AKQJ
♦972
♣75


♠A5
♥109642
♦K63
♣AK4


MPs, North dealer

pass-1♥
2♣-2♦
??


2♦ shows interest in game and ask about features, what would you bid with north's hand now?


Anyway you are in any number of hearts of your choice and LHO leads a heart, take it from there.

you have to go thru 2♣ to show a LR in ♥?

[jdonn]

It's a very fancy convention that is often used by passed hands, you should try it sometime.

[nige1]

Fluffy, on Sep 24 2010, 05:56 PM, said:

MPs, North dealer
♠ 9762 ♥ AKQJ ♦ 972 ♣ 75: _P 2♣ ??
♠ A5 ♥ T9642 ♦ K63 ♣ AK4: 1♥ 2♦
2♦ shows interest in game and ask about features, what would you bid with north's hand now?
Anyway you are in any number of hearts of your choice and LHO leads a heart, take it from there.

IMO 3♥=10 2♥=9. Anyway, 4♥ is a reasonable contract.
♥J, ♠. If RHO plays ♠3 or ♠4, then finesse ♠5 forcing LHO to win the trick; If RHO plays ♠6, perhaps you should duck that, too. Otherwise, win ♠A and exit in ♠.
If RHO gains the lead, with luck, he'll lead the wrong minor.
Then you can ruff a ♠, ruff a ♣, and draw trumps ending in dummy.
If RHO discards on the 4th ♠ then discard a losing ♦.
If RHO follows to the 4th ♠ then ruff and exit in ♦.
(If ♥ are 2-2, instead cross to dummy and lead ♦9, playing low whatever RHO plays).
Finesse ♦K on the second round.

[manudude03]

3H, good trumps, little outside.


Agree with nige on the play, noting that a sleeping East might play the 4 or 5 of diamonds if and when you're eventually forced to lead them.

[hanp]

2H isabsurd nige

[the hog]

hanp, on Sep 25 2010, 04:06 PM, said:

2H isabsurd nige

I agree except I am too polite to say so. 2H is worth -10 imo.

[pooltuna]

jdonn, on Sep 24 2010, 06:29 PM, said:

It's a very fancy convention that is often used by passed hands, you should try it sometime.

one of the advantages of opening very lite is you never have to use Drury

[nige1]

hanp, on Sep 25 2010, 04:06 PM, said:

2H isabsurd nige

The_Hog, on Sep 25 2010, 04:41 AM, said:

I agree except I am too polite to say so. 2H is worth -10 imo.

Your legendary politeness does you credit, Hog

• ♠ 9762 ♥ AKQJ ♦ 972 ♣ 75
  
• ♠ QJ97 ♥ AK62 ♦ 972 ♣ 75
  
• ♠ A762 ♥ K976 ♦ QJ2 ♣ 75

As I play it, 2♣ (Drury) shows you have 4+ ♥ and high-end pass. Over the 2♦ rebid, I would bid 3♥ with all the above hands. All I implied is that hand A is marginal, especially at MPs. Hands like B and C, with the same shape and the same points but the points in other long suits, seem stronger to me. In my naive opinion, a concentration of trump honours is duplication when you know of a nine-card fit,.

Incidentally, I am told that the latest expert fashion is to use 2♦ as the only Drury bid. 2♣ is natural, not forcing, with 5+ ♣. This fits well with weak twos in the other three suits.

[ONEferBRID]

I too agree with Nigel.

[hanp]

nige1, on Sep 25 2010, 08:46 AM, said:

Incidentally, I am told that the latest expert fashion is to use 2♦ as the only Drury bid. 2♣ is natural, not forcing, with 5+ ♣. This fits well with weak twos in the other three suits.

I don't think it is an expert fashion, and even if it was, it would definitely not be the latest.

[jdonn]

hanp, on Sep 25 2010, 10:01 AM, said:

nige1, on Sep 25 2010, 08:46 AM, said:

Incidentally, I am told that the latest expert fashion is to use 2♦ as the only Drury bid. 2♣ is natural, not forcing, with 5+ ♣. This fits well with weak twos in the other three suits.

I don't think it is an expert fashion, and even if it was, it would definitely not be the latest.

It's awm fashion. I understand the logic if you have a weak 2♦ opening but not a weak 2♣ opening as he and I both do, but the step between drury and the suit is very important so I wouldn't do it over hearts. Over spades it makes sense although I've never bothered. Maybe over hearts it would just make sense to play 2♣ is drury and 2♦ is clubs, although I've never considered that before.

[Siegmund]

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you have to go thru 2♣ to show a LR in ♥?

It's a very fancy convention that is often used by passed hands, you should try it sometime.

There was a time people actually made 4-card limit raises, and were only stuck for a rebid when they had 3-card support and too strong of a hand to make a nonforcing bid. I don't think "you have to go through 2C to show this hand??" is a silly question at all, even for people who play Drury.

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one of the advantages of opening very lite is you never have to use Drury

Indeed so. My reg p and I have been opening almost all 11-counts with a 3-card major, and leaving Drury off our card, for years. It's a style choice that isn't palatable for many in the 2/1 crowd but it works well

[Fluffy]

LHO wins he spade with ♠10 and returns a club to RHO's jack. hearts are 2-2, LHO's ♠J falls under ♠A

[nige1]

Fluffy, on Sep 26 2010, 06:30 AM, said:

LHO wins he spade with ♠10 and returns a club to RHO's jack. hearts are 2-2, LHO's ♠J falls under ♠A

I miscounted trumps (as usual) in my earlier attempt but it hinted at a reasonable plan. Win ♥J finesse ♠5, On the ♣ return, cash ♣AK, ♠A, cross to ♥Q.

• If trumps are 2-2, then ruff a ♠, ruff an ♣ and advance the last spade. If RHO shows out then discard a diamond. Otherwise, ruff and lead a ♦ to ♦9.
  
• If LHO followed to ♠A with ♠J, I suppose that you could try endplaying him with the third spade, instead: ♣ ruff, ♥Q, exit with ♠7 unless RHO plays an honour (but I wouldn't adopt that line).
  
• If RHO has 3 trumps, you adopt the line 1, except that you discard on the last ♠ even if RHO has four. (If RHO has two spades, he can thwart the end-play by ruffing the losing spade but its probably worth a shot anyway).
  
• If LHO has 3 trumps, you fall back on a straightforward ♦ finesse.

[Fluffy]

LHO had ♠KJ10 ♦A10xx only endplaying with third spade works.

[nige1]

Fluffy, on Sep 26 2010, 02:51 PM, said:

LHO had ♠KJ10 ♦A10xx only endplaying with third spade works.

Story of my life
But good problem