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All Red
In third seat you pickup your hand
♠K86432
♥void
♦KQ82
♣AK2
A real beauty but then the bidding starts
2♥ (P) ?
an easy call ...no?
Beauty turns into the Beast
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Posted 2010-November-13, 21:43
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2010-November-13, 23:03
2S. Partner bids his feature with S:Hx, else cheaper of 2N, 3H.
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Posted 2010-November-13, 23:20
I pass, i am pretty pesimistic when in misfit and have bad texture in my own suit, i know we can miss game, but i will take the risk. If pd is opening weak 2 in 1st seat like i do, i will be fine with pass i think.
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"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2010-November-14, 09:14
I put this dummy and wish partner good luck.
4♠ when partner has 2 cards will be very awful contract
4♠ when partner has 2 cards will be very awful contract
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Posted 2010-November-14, 10:10
Easy pass for me, because our 2 level preempts can be really weak.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 10:15
Depends on partner. With most partners I would pass. There is a couple people I would bid 2♠ with though. In general though, we need an awful lot from partner to have a decent chance at game.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 10:32
I still hate to pass, I'm going to try 2N Ogust.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 10:43
mtvesuvius, on 2010-November-14, 10:15, said:
In general though, we need an awful lot from partner to have a decent chance at game.
A75/QJT987/43/43 is alot? at Game All? The problem is the safety of the 3 level when partner does not have the right hand rather than partner not being able to have enough. I think I would still bid 2S but the risk certianly makes Pass a LA. I do not think we should be preempting on rubbish at these colours as dealer (as some have suggested they do).
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Posted 2010-November-14, 11:08
pooltuna, on 2010-November-13, 21:43, said:
Team game
All Red
In third seat you pickup your hand
♠K86432
♥void
♦KQ82
♣AK2
A real beauty but then the bidding starts
2♥ (P) ?
an easy call ...no?
All Red
In third seat you pickup your hand
♠K86432
♥void
♦KQ82
♣AK2
A real beauty but then the bidding starts
2♥ (P) ?
an easy call ...no?
A bit too good to pass.
2♠ and hope pd doesnt bid 3♥
BR
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Posted 2010-November-14, 11:10
2♠. Nonforcing but raisable with fit. Perfect.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 13:03
Pass. Opposite x-KQJ10xx-xxx-xxx 4S has zero chance.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 13:39
mfa1010, on 2010-November-14, 11:10, said:
2♠. Nonforcing but raisable with fit. Perfect.
Yes, I make sure to tap my left toe twice, rhythmically, against the floor letting my partner know that my 2♠ call is non-forcing. I might have trouble with this treatment in a carpeted environment, however.
I'm with mtvesuvius on this one, it very much depends on partner's preemptive tendencies.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 13:42
2♠ with most people, but definitely pass if I'm playing with matmat
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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peachy, on 2010-November-14, 13:03, said:
Pass. Opposite x-KQJ10xx-xxx-xxx 4S has zero chance.
Yes, but 3♥ probably still has good odds of making and we will stop there after partner's rebid.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 14:22
jillybean, on 2010-November-14, 10:32, said:
I still hate to pass, I'm going to try 2N Ogust.
What contract are you trying to reach jilly?
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Posted 2010-November-14, 14:27
matmat, on 2010-November-14, 13:39, said:
Yes, I make sure to tap my left toe twice, rhythmically, against the floor letting my partner know that my 2♠ call is non-forcing. I might have trouble with this treatment in a carpeted environment, however.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2010-November-14, 15:37
I would pass and hope we dont go down in 2♥
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Posted 2010-November-14, 15:52
pooltuna, on 2010-November-13, 21:43, said:
Team game. All Red. Third seat ♠ K86432 ♥- ♦ KQ82 ♣ AK2
2♥ (P) ?
2♥ (P) ?
We would open 2♥ with, eg ♠ Axx ♥ QJxxxx ♦ Jx ♣ xx
And, for us, 2♠ is F1.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 16:19
matmat, on 2010-November-14, 13:39, said:
Yes, I make sure to tap my left toe twice, rhythmically, against the floor letting my partner know that my 2♠ call is non-forcing. I might have trouble with this treatment in a carpeted environment, however.
What a shame. Fortunately my regular partners all have better memories than that...
I much prefer a NF treatment, which I have been playing for many years.
As it is so often the case, when playing something as NF, it enables us to get our suits in more often. Partner is in principle pretty well defined, so there is plenty of time to make delicate choice of games decisions later without having a forcing 2♠ available.
Michael Askgaard