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ATB down way too much
#2
Posted 2011-April-08, 19:47
You don't get to push them up one more level twice. East.
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#3
Posted 2011-April-08, 20:08
When East decided not to show his or her hearts via a negative double, that deemed the hand worth one bid. 2D was that bid.
#4
Posted 2011-April-09, 10:03
I would double on the first round rather than 2♦. 3♦ was ludicrous over 2♠ and worse than partner's 4♦
#5
Posted 2011-April-09, 12:20
I don't see how you can blame West at all. Based on the 2♦ bid from East, West thought there was 9 Diamonds as well as ~20 HCP, and therefore correctly bid on, pretty much assured of not getting Doubled. The 4♦ is atrocious, and I think I would have a stern talking to partner about doing that again.
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#6
Posted 2011-April-09, 12:56
Both get a lot of charge.
4♦ is awful as the others have indicated.
I don't like 3♦ either. Even at MPs, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to escape undoubled for -1? I think you are really praying that your LHO takes one more call that you can beat.
Nor do I understand 2♦. What is wrong with a negative x? This would get a 1N rebid, and East would compete to 3♦, and no one would be doing anything over 3♠.
Last, I don't even like ONE diamond LOL. We have both minors and a sub-minimum, so why let the opponents into the auction when it might get passed out? We don't want a diamond lead. Just pass.
Both of the final passes are faultless. WD.
4♦ is awful as the others have indicated.
I don't like 3♦ either. Even at MPs, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to escape undoubled for -1? I think you are really praying that your LHO takes one more call that you can beat.
Nor do I understand 2♦. What is wrong with a negative x? This would get a 1N rebid, and East would compete to 3♦, and no one would be doing anything over 3♠.
Last, I don't even like ONE diamond LOL. We have both minors and a sub-minimum, so why let the opponents into the auction when it might get passed out? We don't want a diamond lead. Just pass.
Both of the final passes are faultless. WD.
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#7
Posted 2011-April-09, 14:24
chasetb, on 2011-April-09, 12:20, said:
I don't see how you can blame West at all. Based on the 2♦ bid from East, West thought there was 9 Diamonds as well as ~20 HCP, and therefore correctly bid on, pretty much assured of not getting Doubled.
It is true that bridge books write that you need 5 card-support to raise a 1m opening in competition, but that's really non-sense. Most hands with 4 diamonds and no 4 hearts should raise on the posted auction - unless they scream bidding 1NT.
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#8
Posted 2011-April-09, 16:52
Both. What does opener have extra to warrant another bid??? But more blame to East for hiding his hearts and then bidding 4D.
#9
Posted 2011-April-09, 17:28
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#10
Posted 2011-April-09, 19:09
East 65%.
Every bid is bad here. If West wants to open, why not 1♣ instead of 1♦. East suppressing the five card heart suit is very strange and the East hand is probably worth an immediate 3♦ anyway. West's 3♦ can only be right if partner is a chronic underbidder and East's 4♦ is suicidal with limited offence and Q10x in opponents' suit.
Every bid is bad here. If West wants to open, why not 1♣ instead of 1♦. East suppressing the five card heart suit is very strange and the East hand is probably worth an immediate 3♦ anyway. West's 3♦ can only be right if partner is a chronic underbidder and East's 4♦ is suicidal with limited offence and Q10x in opponents' suit.
#13
Posted 2011-April-13, 01:13
Bbradley62, on 2011-April-08, 17:53, said:
Playing SAYC
4♦ is completely wrong.
I would have started with a Negative double (the 5 card, and the ♦fit compensates the lack of HP), and later I can bid 2 or (if needed) 3♦.
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