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How Many Spades?

#1 User is offline   lamford 

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Posted 2011-October-10, 06:48

♠QJ10xxxx ♥Q ♦KJx ♣Jx.

Dealer at love all. IMPs. Your go.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 06:57

I will open 2♠ showing 8-12 points and a 6 card suit and be happy that I play that method when I pick this hand up :)
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Posted 2011-October-10, 07:06

View Postsasioc, on 2011-October-10, 06:57, said:

I will open 2♠ showing 8-12 points and a 6 card suit and be happy that I play that method when I pick this hand up :)

Sadly you are not playing American weak twos. Your Two Spade opener at love all would be 5-9 with six spades.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 07:09

3♠
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Posted 2011-October-10, 07:45

3♠
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Posted 2011-October-10, 08:24

You should go with your first thought and run this as a poll lamford. Many people will not comment once the first 2 have posted 3S and they agree with them. For those that do not read the Laws forums lamford has a bet that the majority would open this hand 1S...
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Posted 2011-October-10, 08:25

View PostZelandakh, on 2011-October-10, 08:24, said:

For those that do not read the Laws forums lamford has a bet that the majority would open this hand 1S...

So much for not biasing the voters...
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Posted 2011-October-10, 08:36

Looks like a 3♠ opener to me too. 1♠ is not absurd but I don't like it on just 1 control.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 08:38

The format makes for bias. I did not initially respond here because the 2 before me said everything necessary. Then I read the other thread and realised that if lamford is looking for a "majority" that my silence is a bias and I am probably not alone in not responding. Furthermore, in a non-poll format, as soon as one of JL, Han, Hog, MH (apologies if I missed you) post pretty much everyone will follow suit unless another of the seniors disagrees. In the poll format people have to make their own minds up if it is not made public and not too many extraneous comments follow.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 08:49

3♠ damn near automatic
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Posted 2011-October-10, 09:17

Easy 3♠ bid. 1♠ with this trash is a joke and 2♠ NV with 7 too weak.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 09:19

Hi,

If I open, it would be a preempt, and it would be either 3S or 4S.
The decision is depend on partnership agreement, as always.

The alternative is pass.

In my current partnership this would be a pass, since we have lots
of values outside spades.

1S would not cross my mind, and the same for 2S.

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Posted 2011-October-10, 09:21

3S, don't love having random stuff on the side but what can I do, I'm not going to pass.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 09:24

View PostZelandakh, on 2011-October-10, 08:38, said:

The format makes for bias. I did not initially respond here because the 2 before me said everything necessary. Then I read the other thread and realised that if lamford is looking for a "majority" that my silence is a bias and I am probably not alone in not responding. Furthermore, in a non-poll format, as soon as one of JL, Han, Hog, MH (apologies if I missed you) post pretty much everyone will follow suit unless another of the seniors disagrees. In the poll format people have to make their own minds up if it is not made public and not too many extraneous comments follow.


I know I always base my vote on the hog ;) Anyways, of course you're right minus one detail perhaps :P However, in this case it seems like everyone had already voted 3S, except for the 2S voter.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 09:24

I'd open it 1♠. I don't mind 4♠, but I hate 3♠ with so much defence.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 09:27

View Postgnasher, on 2011-October-10, 09:24, said:

I'd open it 1♠. I don't mind 4♠, but I hate 3♠ with so much defence.


Isn't opening 4 with a lot of defense worse than opening 3 with a lot of defense?
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Posted 2011-October-10, 09:46

View Postgnasher, on 2011-October-10, 09:24, said:

I'd open it 1♠. I don't mind 4♠, but I hate 3♠ with so much defence.


I'd open it 3♠. I don't mind 4♠, but I hate 1♠ with so little defence.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 10:12

3♠ seems obvious. I can't imagine opening 1♠ on this hand ever. 4♠ might be the winning call, but I don't like going out on a limb when I have a perfectly descriptive call available.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 10:25

Playing standard methods, nothing but 3♠ would occur to me.
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Posted 2011-October-10, 10:26

I thought A/E was moderated for trivial problems. 3♠ WTP
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