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How many spades over heart pre-empt?

#1 User is offline   flametree 

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Posted 2011-December-23, 04:19

Pass from partner (dealer).
3 from RHO.

What do you bid with :

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Posted 2011-December-23, 05:56

4S, you need very little for game (like the DK).
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Posted 2011-December-23, 06:34

4
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Posted 2011-December-23, 07:58

Given partner is a passed hand - 4S, if facing a p, which had not yet the opportunity to speak,
..., still 4S, but I would play with idea to investigate higher ranking contracts.

Not a good idea, but I would play with the idea.

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Posted 2011-December-23, 10:06

Looks like a textbook 4 call.
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Posted 2011-December-23, 11:14

Can't imagine bidding anything other than 4.
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Posted 2011-December-23, 11:30

4 WTP? And hopefully this forces LHO to make the "last guess".
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Posted 2011-December-23, 15:56

Ok, seems unanimous. I was worried a 4S bid would make partner think I was stronger than this and try for slam...

Unfortunately my timid 3S bid encouraged LHO to compete, and he bid on to 5H for a good result for them. (5S would have made in reality though not double dummy - RHO could get a diamond ruff if LHO led the ace and another). I suspect an initial 4S bid would have shut LHO out.

If I were stronger (say KJTx in diamonds, Ax in clubs), would you use Exclusion Key Card to look for slam, or is there some other way?
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Posted 2011-December-25, 00:04

With AKQxxxx,v,KJTx,Ax I would dbl 3H and then bid spades (also at 5 level). Exclusion is when you agreed a trump suit.
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