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#501 User is offline   ggwhiz 

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Posted 2013-July-08, 11:03

 Thiros, on 2013-July-08, 00:56, said:

Loud construction work going on outside my window before about 10 in the morning.


Google maps came through and put my home on. Judging from the construction equipment in the front yard it was in either May, June, July, August or September
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Posted 2013-July-08, 12:11

 barmar, on 2013-July-08, 09:07, said:

Hmm, never real noticed that, but you're right: John Wilkes Booth, James Earl Ray and Lee Harvey Oswald. But not Sirhan Sirhan or Jack Ruby.

Booth killed Lincoln, Ray killed Martin Luther King (3 names!), and Oswald killed JFK. I'm not aware that any of them was accused of multiple murders or of being a serial killer.

It's common these days to call people by their last names, even people you don't know. Once upon a time, that was considered rude. In fact, the norm when addressing strangers was to use Mr. or Mrs. or whatever and their last name. Nowadays when you're introduced to "Judy Jones" you usually start calling her Judy immediately. Times — and mores — change.
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Posted 2013-July-09, 10:56

 blackshoe, on 2013-July-08, 12:11, said:

Booth killed Lincoln, Ray killed Martin Luther King (3 names!), and Oswald killed JFK. I'm not aware that any of them was accused of multiple murders or of being a serial killer.

I was just thinking of (in)famous murderers, not specifically of the mass variety. Are the latter mostly 3-named?

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Posted 2013-July-09, 11:00

 GreenMan, on 2013-July-08, 10:52, said:

I'm not familiar with the specific case, but if some people know him as James and others know him as Whitey, then you're well advised to cover the bases. Not everyone is known universally by the same name.

I think he was mostly known by his nickname -- before he was caught, that's how I mostly remember news reports referring to him. I think they feel the need to be more formal now that they're reporting on the trial, so they use his given name. But it still grates on me when they throw them together -- I doubt ANYONE ever called him "James Whitey". His family probably called him James (or Jimmy, I'll bet), everyone else knew him as Whitey.

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Posted 2013-July-09, 15:50

 barmar, on 2013-July-09, 10:56, said:

I was just thinking of (in)famous murderers, not specifically of the mass variety. Are the latter mostly 3-named?

That was the assertion that Mike777 made, and to which you replied. :ph34r:
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Posted 2013-July-09, 16:34

 barmar, on 2013-July-09, 10:56, said:

I was just thinking of (in)famous murderers, not specifically of the mass variety. Are the latter mostly 3-named?


Well, there's Son Of Sam ...
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Posted 2013-July-10, 10:23

 blackshoe, on 2013-July-09, 15:50, said:

That was the assertion that Mike777 made, and to which you replied. :ph34r:

Problem was he didn't actually give any examples. So when I started searching my memory, the ones that came to mind were murderers of famous people, not mass murderers.

Wikipedia has a list of serial killers, of course. It doesn't look like having 3 names is common among them.

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Posted 2013-July-10, 10:48

 barmar, on 2013-July-10, 10:23, said:

Problem was he didn't actually give any examples. So when I started searching my memory, the ones that came to mind were murderers of famous people, not mass murderers.

Wikipedia has a list of serial killers, of course. It doesn't look like having 3 names is common among them.

What is it with Columbia and child killers.
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Posted 2013-July-22, 12:16

Staunch NY style pizza puritans who argue that Chicago-style is something other than pizza.

Chicago-style is still pizza. EAD.
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Posted 2013-July-23, 07:49

They have pizza in the US?!?

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Posted 2013-July-23, 09:17

That's such a silly argument. Pizza differs greatly from region to region, so it's become an extremely general term. Almost anything with sauce and/or cheese on top of bread and baked in an oven can be called "pizza". And most people simply prefer the style they grew up on, and consider everything else "ersatz".

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Posted 2013-July-23, 14:07

I traveled to Wisconsin last week. Looking at the map, I was reminded of my longtime annoyance at upper Michigan. It should just be a part of Wisconsin IMO. No real significance to this, it has just always bugged me.
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Posted 2013-July-23, 14:56

Go get a DVD of "How the States Got Their Shapes", there's an episode that discusses how Michigan happened.

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Posted 2013-July-23, 18:57

 billw55, on 2013-July-23, 14:07, said:

I traveled to Wisconsin last week. Looking at the map, I was reminded of my longtime annoyance at upper Michigan. It should just be a part of Wisconsin IMO. No real significance to this, it has just always bugged me.


Go find a map of the Northwest Angle in Minnesota. Does it seem to you like this should belong to Canada?
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Posted 2013-July-24, 08:09

 bd71, on 2013-July-23, 18:57, said:

Go find a map of the Northwest Angle in Minnesota. Does it seem to you like this should belong to Canada?

Yes! We should give it as a present ;)
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Posted 2013-July-24, 17:29

 bd71, on 2013-July-23, 18:57, said:

Go find a map of the Northwest Angle in Minnesota. Does it seem to you like this should belong to Canada?



The initial establishment of Angle Township being in the United States was due to a map-maker's error. Benjamin Franklin and British representatives established the initial U.S. and Canadian borders in the Treaty of Paris in 1783 from the Mitchell Map of colonial American geographer John Mitchell, which mis-represented the source of the Mississippi River.

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Posted 2013-July-25, 08:35

 billw55, on 2013-July-24, 08:09, said:

Yes! We should give it as a present ;)

They gave us William Shatner and Michael J Fox. We owe them.

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Posted 2013-July-25, 10:55

Hey, for our credit, we also gave you Alan Thicke. Partial repayment, right (*)?

(oh, and I love that scene in Canadian Bacon where they scroll up all the 'subversives' that have infiltrated the USA, 'taking our jobs'. The first minute or so)

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Posted 2013-August-06, 10:42

There's something that really irritates in some Bridge discussions, though it's a lot more common over at Bridgewinners: there are some people who seem compelled to spout bridge memes. They go into any discussion looking for opportunities to use expressions like "the boss suit", "beer card", "it's a bidder's game" etc, which really add very little to the discussion.
Of course, occasionally these expressions do mean something and they might even be relevant. I'm referring, however, to the phenomenon wherein some posters go into threads and make comments like "I wish you held the 7 so you could squeeze him with the beer card". Bleh.
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Posted 2013-August-06, 13:58

I keep thinking that I should learn about the beer card, and then I think why should i? And it's a bidders game except when it isn't. Really saying that in close decisions you should bid simply moves the line for close decisions to another spot. I agree that this adds nothing to a discussion. There is a lot of nonsense like this. We are advised that some percentage or other of the times that we double a contract it is supposed to make, otherwise we are not doubling enough. Well, maybe so, but we still need to select the right times, not just the right percentage. Saying that "bridge is a game of choices and you won't always be right" is pablum, but at least it makes sense.
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