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does anybody recognize this convention interference over opps 1n

#1 User is offline   gszes 

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Posted 2012-February-29, 19:51

doesn't matter opps nt range

2c relay showing clubs and a major
a weak partner can pass the 2c bid
after 2d relay
2h = hearts (and clubs)
2s = spades (and clubs)
2d red suits
2h majors
2s spades and diamonds
2n minors

Direct seat

x generally a one suited hand but can also
be a strong balanced hand roughly near the
top of opps 1n range (or stronger) and asks
p to leave the x in with as little as an
A or K and Q (and a generally balanced hand)
If p cant stand the x they run to 2c (pass or
correct) OR bid their own suit.

PO seat

suit bids the same
x = 1 suited hand relay to 2c for pass or correct


if not I would like to christen it zeldon (variation of bro(zel) and (don)t
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Posted 2012-February-29, 19:58

I dunno but if it already has a name it probably starts with A... and ends with ...tro. Most of them do.
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Posted 2012-March-01, 05:46

It sounds like a variation of WONT to me but I may be wrong as I did not see this one in ages.
(-: Zel :-)
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Posted 2012-March-01, 07:36

it is called brozzel. It is not extremely uncommon, I have had pick-up partners asking me to play it a couple of times.

http://www.bridgeguy...ons/Brozel.html
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Posted 2012-March-01, 07:47

View Posthelene_t, on 2012-March-01, 07:36, said:

it is called brozzel. It is not extremely uncommon, I have had pick-up partners asking me to play it a couple of times.

http://www.bridgeguy...ons/Brozel.html

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Posted 2012-March-01, 10:26

I have tried exploring dont, brozel, lots of forms of astro,
forms of landy, forms of cappeletti and no matches so far.
Any other ideas???? I tried looking up WONT and couldnt get
anything from the internet.
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Posted 2012-March-01, 11:02

You might check David Stevenson's pages on defenses to 1NT.
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Posted 2012-March-01, 11:24

View Postblackshoe, on 2012-March-01, 11:02, said:

You might check David Stevenson's pages on defenses to 1NT.

searching this wonderful collection of defenses (ty for the link) the basic
set up is indeed called WONT. NOW for another question? The original design
is that the x is designed to show a one suited hand only and not for penalty
(and that is how I propose to use it in PO seat).

I propose to expand/change the definition to x (in direct seat) to include not
just 1 suited hands (on lead) but also strong balanced hands near or above the
range of the nt opener???? I looked and could not find this application anywhere.
Is that sufficient to rename a convention or should it be called wont modified???
anyone know ??????
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Posted 2012-March-02, 07:13

I think you can call it "peanut butter" if you like. There aren't any rules on naming conventions, except that the publicist gets to choose the name, or it usually gets named after him. Some conventions end up with multiple names, for a variety of reasons (Cappelletti/Hamilton/Helms/Pottage, or Leaping Michaels/Shleifer, for example).
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