[perry93]

Hi, i use 5-card-major. I have 13 points with 4 diamonds and 4 hearts: not bad, i open 1♦.
My partner bids 1NT, natural meaning (probably he has clubs?).
I only have 1 club, but i'm not strong enough to say 2♥ (it would be a rever, 16/20 points)... what should i do? pass?

Thank You and excuse me for my bad english

[frank0]

pass, when partner makes a non-forcing bid and it's impossible for you to make a game then stop now.

A minority point is partner's 1NT over 1♦ usually implies some ♣.

[ggwhiz]

Welcome.

You have no big upside on offence and when faced with a poor choice, go with the one that scores the highest, notrump here.

On occasion if you pass smoothly an aggressive opponent will bid something and regret it.

[S2000magic]

Pass.

You're likely in the best spot, so there's no need to worry. Partner may be 3=3=3=4, or he may have long clubs. Either way, you can probably scramble 7 tricks at notrump, with no 8 card fit in a suit.

[P_Marlowe]

perry93, on 2012-April-27, 15:33, said:

Hi, i use 5-card-major. I have 13 points with 4 diamonds and 4 hearts: not bad, i open 1♦.
My partner bids 1NT, natural meaning (probably he has clubs?).
I only have 1 club, but i'm not strong enough to say 2♥ (it would be a rever, 16/20 points)... what should i do? pass?

Thank You and excuse me for my bad english

The 1NT reponse to your 1D opening

showes - 6-9/(10) HCP

but equally important

denies - a 4 card major, other wiese partner would have bid it
From this followes, you dont have a 8 card fit in the major.

Hence pass, partner will have 7 cards in the minors, i.e. he will
have length in clubs, and you dont want to play 3NT, you want to
play 1NT, i.e. the opponents are allowed to take 6 tricks.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[perry93]

Thank you all for your precision for a stupid thing!

[Lesh18]

I have a relating question so I'll post it here:

Let's say West opens 1♣ (natural, sayc), North passes and East has: 2 HCP pts. and one club.

1) The sayc rule says I can propose a new suit or bid a negative 1NT with 6 or more points. So what do I do here? Will I pass, even though it is very likely that we won't be able to make those 7 tricks?
2) Will the contract of 1♣ ultmately be the best option for west-east, considering the fact that in this situation, north-south do carry quite strong hands, so failing to make 1♣ by one undertrick scores better than having opponents bid their own play (maybe game)? Is thinking like this legitimate? That opponents are 'supposed' to bid a higher contract, and if they do not, it is just our advantage?

[Antrax]

1) Yes, pass. You will find that the opponents loathe to let you play on the 1-level, so it is very likely the fourth seat will find some call over 1♣.
2) Quite possible, and that's precisely the reason for my answer to (1). I can tell you against weak opponents I was sometimes left in 1♣ down a bunch when I was in a 3-1 fit. However, the result was rarely a bad one (and I learned to play 3-1 fits )

[Phil]

Welcome to the forums Perry.

[Quantumcat]

The benefit of passing is that your partner now knows that you have 5 points or less. If you have a six-card suit, then if the opponents re-open the bidding, you can bid your suit at any level you like, without your partner doing anything silly. This is called limiting your hand. In general, when you have the opportunity to limit your hand, definitely do so. Means you can go crazy later without your partner thinking you have a strong hand and bidding too much.

[P_Marlowe]

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[P_Marlowe]

Lesh18, on 2012-May-04, 01:53, said:

I have a relating question so I'll post it here:

Let's say West opens 1♣ (natural, sayc), North passes and East has: 2 HCP pts. and one club.

1) The sayc rule says I can propose a new suit or bid a negative 1NT with 6 or more points. So what do I do here? Will I pass, even though it is very likely that we won't be able to make those 7 tricks?
2) Will the contract of 1♣ ultmately be the best option for west-east, considering the fact that in this situation, north-south do carry quite strong hands, so failing to make 1♣ by one undertrick scores better than having opponents bid their own play (maybe game)? Is thinking like this legitimate? That opponents are 'supposed' to bid a higher contract, and if they do not, it is just our advantage?

Default would be - Pass.

Even if 1C could only be a 3 carder, very often, it will be a 4 / 5 carder.

If 1C gets passed out, you will be doing ok most of the time.

If you have a long suit, e.g. a 6 carder, you can bid the suit, planning to
repeat it.
The other alternatives I wont mention, you can try to improve the contract,
sometimes this works, sometimes not.

If you pass in tempo, 4th seat may bid.

With kind regards
Marlowe