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Poll: reopening spades being a passed hand (29 member(s) have cast votes)

Mark 0 or 1 per level please

  1. reopen 1 spade with double (25 votes [39.06%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.06%

  2. reopen 1 spade with 2 diamonds (3 votes [4.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.69%

  3. reopen 2 spades with double (25 votes [39.06%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.06%

  4. reopen 2 spade with 3 diamonds (1 votes [1.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.56%

  5. reopen 2 spade with something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. reopen 3 spades with double (7 votes [10.94%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.94%

  7. reopen 3 spades with 4 diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. reopen 3 spades with something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. reopen 4 spades with double (1 votes [1.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.56%

  10. reopen 4 spades with 4NT (1 votes [1.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.56%

  11. reopen 4 spades with something else (1 votes [1.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.56%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2012-June-11, 03:55

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♦K10872
♣K8

IMPs, All vulnerable, RHO deals and passes.

(pass)-pass-(X♠)-pass
(pass)- ???
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Posted 2012-June-11, 04:00

Nice poll, I would double over 1S and 2S but pass over 3S. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could convince me that I should double 3S as well.

Doing anything but pass or double at any level seems really wrong.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-June-11, 11:45

View Posthan, on 2012-June-11, 04:00, said:

Nice poll, I would double over 1S and 2S but pass over 3S. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could convince me that I should double 3S as well.

Doing anything but pass or double at any level seems really wrong.


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Posted 2012-June-11, 13:44

I'd bid 2 ♦ over 1 ♠ to limit my hand. 3 ♠ and above, I'm passing. Not sure what I'd do over 2 ♠.
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Posted 2012-June-11, 14:33

View Postrmnka447, on 2012-June-11, 13:44, said:

I'd bid 2 ♦ over 1 ♠ to limit my hand.

You are a passed hand and you're balancing, this is a strong hand in context, why would you want to limit your hand?
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Posted 2012-June-11, 15:26

x over 1s/2s not enough stuff to go beyond 2s x-----------

this would have been a MUCH tougher choice if my two suits had been clubs and hearts vs dia and hearts
I have ELC on my side with the presented problem making the x much more palatable.
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Posted 2012-June-11, 18:53

View Postgwnn, on 2012-June-11, 14:33, said:

You are a passed hand and you're balancing, this is a strong hand in context, why would you want to limit your hand?

Thanks --- A cow flew by!!

2 ♦ would be right if I were UNPASSED, but double is correct for a PASSED hand as partner couldn't misread my values.

I'm sure I'd get it right at the table.
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Posted 2012-June-12, 02:05

View Postrmnka447, on 2012-June-11, 18:53, said:

2 ♦ would be right if I were UNPASSED


I think you are wrong, but less wrong than before.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-June-12, 03:57

View Postrmnka447, on 2012-June-11, 18:53, said:

Thanks --- A cow flew by!!

2 ♦ would be right if I were UNPASSED, but double is correct for a PASSED hand as partner couldn't misread my values.

I'm sure I'd get it right at the table.


Double is just always right in the pass out seat with this hand. Even if unpassed. If you don't double here you are taking a serious hit on expected value imo.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 17:07

when this hand hapened reopening 3♠ would lead to a makng 3NT, partner had ♠Axx and could shut down their comunications easilly.
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