BBO Discussion Forums: Another grand decision we got wrong - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Another grand decision we got wrong

#1 User is offline   mr1303 

  • Admirer of Walter the Walrus
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,563
  • Joined: 2003-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
  • Interests:Bridge, surfing, water skiing, cricket, golf. Generally being outside really.

Posted 2013-August-22, 17:34



Everything broke nicely and 13 tricks were cold.

Who should do what differently?
0

#2 User is offline   nige1 

  • 5-level belongs to me
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,128
  • Joined: 2004-August-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Glasgow Scotland
  • Interests:Poems Computers

Posted 2013-August-22, 17:43

View Postmr1303, on 2013-August-22, 17:34, said:



Everything broke nicely and 13 tricks were cold.

Who should do what differently?
IMO you'd benefit from more definition. For example, if 4 were exclusion, then you might reach the grand.
0

#3 User is offline   gnasher 

  • Andy Bowles
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,993
  • Joined: 2007-May-03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK

Posted 2013-August-23, 01:12

View Postnige1, on 2013-August-22, 17:43, said:

IMO you'd benefit from more definition. For example, if 4 were exclusion, then you might reach the grand.

It's certainly a good idea to know what your bids mean, but how would Exclusion get you to 7 when you want to be in it and not when you don't?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
0

#4 User is offline   mike777 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 16,751
  • Joined: 2003-October-07
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2013-August-23, 01:19

4s(ex)=5c(1-4)
6c(kc, grand try)=7h

my problem is I am far from sure 4s would be exclusion ......rats... if kickback I would need to get lucky.
0

#5 User is offline   gnasher 

  • Andy Bowles
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,993
  • Joined: 2007-May-03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK

Posted 2013-August-23, 01:43

If 4 is agreed as a void-showing splinter, North should probably bid 5. With 4 known to be unknown, North's actual choice is understandable, because of the risk that 5 would be interpreted as two key cards.

When North jumps to 6, South might bid 7. He also knows that the partnership is in unknown territory, so North's jump to 6 probably shows what he had: a suitable hand where he doesn't know what any of the in-between bids mean. North is almost certain to have A, and K is also likely. If K is missing, that's not the end of the world.

Going back a step, if South knew 4 was undiscussed, it was unwise to bid it. The best way to find out what a bid means is by not bidding it, then discussing it later. And 4 is hardly a panacea anyway. He would have done better just to start cue-bidding and try to find out about a diamond control.

By the way, with the North hand I'd have been raising to game.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2013-August-23, 01:53

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
2

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

3 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 3 guests, 0 anonymous users