Whose hand is this?
#1
Posted 2013-August-23, 15:18
♥AQJ9xx
♦J
♣-
All vul, MPs.
(pass)-1♠-(double)-2♠
( 3 ♣ )-4♠-( 4 NT )-pass
(pass)-??
#2
Posted 2013-August-23, 15:31
#3
Posted 2013-August-23, 15:32
#4
Posted 2013-August-24, 12:06
#6
Posted 2013-August-26, 11:20
We even managed to score -690 after ♠A+Q lead and bad discarding, but no need to drop overtricks, -630 was a cold bottom already.
#7
Posted 2013-August-26, 11:30
Fluffy, on 2013-August-26, 11:20, said:
I think he should take some further action with that. Because he had only one way to raise to 2♠ his bid has a very wide range. With a complete maximum and two trump honours, after he hears you bid 4♠ he should be thinking of 5♠ himself.
I think that a double of 4NT shows something like this - a hand that wants to bid 5♠, but giving you a chance to overrule him. The double is usually safe, because it's almost impossible for the opponents to play in 4NTx. On this hand, of course, you'd bid 5♠ opposite his double, to cater for the "almost".
#8
Posted 2013-August-27, 10:45
At this point, I think a 5 ♥ bid stands out. We've already agreed on ♠s, so it must be showing some ♥ holding and a willingness to play 5 ♠. It may also be some help to partner in figuring out what to do if the opponent's carry on to the 6 level
Given a choice, I would have started bidding ♥s directly over the 3 ♣ bid, probably with a 4 ♥ choose a major call. (I don't think that a 4 ♥ call could ever be a self splinter in a competitive auction where advancer has made some positive noise. But if I was worried about partner's interpretation of the call, then I'd simply bid 3 ♥ followed later by 4 ♠.)
I can appreciate that maybe tactically 4 ♠ was chosen to try to shut out the auction without revealing much.
#9
Posted 2013-August-29, 06:38
Cyberyeti, on 2013-August-23, 15:32, said:
Fluffy, on 2013-August-26, 11:20, said:
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#10
Posted 2013-August-29, 07:46
MrAce, on 2013-August-29, 06:38, said:
That too of course, but it's really embarrassing when partner leads a spade from Kxx(x), dummy's stiff queen scores and the second heart winner goes away under the ♠ace in 6m.
#11
Posted 2013-August-29, 08:25
The opponents have more high cards than we do. We have a 9+ card ♠ fit. The opponents must have a similar fit in clubs or a double fit in the minors. LOTT analysis suggests lotsa tricks, at least 20 with 21 or 22 more likely. I can count, at a very minimum, 18 trumps plus my void. Given my shortness in the minors, partner may well have a defensive trick in one of the minors which could reduce the count by one (maybe even two).
IFL analysis finds our side should have at least 13 working points with an SST factor of one. This suggests 10 tricks for the good guys, at a minimum. If partner has the ♥ king or a stiff ♥ or ♠ AQ, we probably make 5♠. All this is a pretty self-evident result. You really don't need IFL to figure it out.
Can the opponents make 6♣? Well, it is surely possible. If we have 10 tricks in spades, and there are 22 total tricks, there it is. 22 total tricks requires either no 'impurities' like a ♣ king offside or some nasty ♦ or ♣ holding in partners hand, OR some extra shortness (like a heart void) in their holding. Against 6♣, I plan to lead the ♥ ace. I think fear of 6♣ has two issues to consider:
1. will they bid it?
2. can they make it?
Nothing is sure but death and taxes. It's a bidders game. Faint heart ne'er won fair maid. Egad, I am not even close to running out of aphorisms, so I'm just going to bid 5♠ and have done with it.
#12
Posted 2013-August-29, 08:30
I would have bid 4♥ at my last opportunity to bid, in case there was any more bidding and also for the lead. I am bidding 5♥ now for the same reasons.
#13
Posted 2013-August-29, 08:31
I think Tino nailed it: the reason we (clearly, imo) bid some number of hearts earlier (my vote is a natural 4♥, showing huge shape....he won't assume 6-6 of course, but he will assume 10 and often 11 cards in the majors) is to allow partner some ability to that which we wish all partners to do...something intelligent should the opps compete.
And the opps WILL compete if they have a pulse: we opened on our 9 count (a clear opening, don't get me wrong) and partner make a weak raise.
Bidding 4♠ was very short-sighted.
#14
Posted 2013-August-29, 11:21
do the opps have slam (very unlikely looking at AQ of hearts plus a bidding partner)
how many do we expect to lose in 5s (after our 5h lead director bid) (I agree with 4s preemptive)
surely -500 at worst. it would seem reasonable that risk vs reward means we bid on so on we go
5h:))))
#15
Posted 2013-August-29, 15:55
The opponents? Stick it to 'em.