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Poll: What is your lead? (22 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your lead?

  1. King of spades (4 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  2. 7 of spades (4 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  3. Top heart (12 votes [54.55%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 54.55%

  4. Small diamond (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Small club (2 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

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#1 User is offline   jallerton 

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Posted 2014-March-12, 17:13



You may or may not agree with your earlier bidding.

What is your lead against 7♣?
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Posted 2014-March-12, 17:28

I find a heart lead to be a bit pointless, i mean our p has shown the majors and we've bid 4H and then 6H yet they've still commited to grand slam - surely they have a first round heart control.

I would probably lead a trump with no real conviction.
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Posted 2014-March-12, 17:48

Maybe Napoleon was right after all.
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Posted 2014-March-12, 18:18

West surely has a spade control for his leap to slam, with no heart control. Thus a spade lead can't be right.

West will always get the diamonds right, so he is going to pitch any spade loser he has on dummy's diamonds, so a passive club lead can't be right.

I was surprised to learn here, some months ago, that some pretty good players do not take the forcing pass of 6♥ as promising a first round control, so there is some merit in leading a heart, in case East belongs to that school, or is Zia.

The alternative is a diamond, hoping for a ruff. If one was leading a diamond, it would be the 9, in a futile attempt to deny the Q. Partner wouldn't be doubling the only contract he can beat. I do have an awful lot of clubs for this, but so far I am placing partner with a working 4 count, so maybe he has the freak that warrants his action: Jxxxxx Jxxxxx void x.

That's what I am going to play for....if the heart was cashing, well done opps. If a black suit was right, well, I'm not good enough to work it out.
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Posted 2014-March-12, 19:01

View Postjallerton, on 2014-March-12, 17:13, said:


You may or may not agree with your earlier bidding. What is your lead against 7♣?
♥ = 10, ♠ = 9, ♣ = 8 ♦ = 5.




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Posted 2014-March-12, 19:30

♥A
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Posted 2014-March-12, 21:05

Unless opp planning a heist they have ♥ void and Ace♠ or void.

So will play A♥ as a safe lead and maybe they got confused as to who was promising ♥ void.



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Posted 2014-March-13, 07:14

Dummy has show 6-3 in the minors, and heart void, so 4063.

Declarer will then be something like 2227 or 2317 probably with ♠A and good clubs

We need to tap dummy to beat the hand, hoping partner has ♦J
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Posted 2014-March-13, 14:35

I'm not sure what's going on, and I suspect no-one across the table knows as well.

So I'll just lead the bureaucratic heart.
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Posted 2014-March-14, 04:55

View PostPhilKing, on 2014-March-12, 17:48, said:

Maybe Napoleon was right after all.

It is better to be lucky than good?
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Posted 2014-March-14, 05:49

"God is on the side of the big battalions" might be more appropriate. I think I would have saved, which is probably only 800.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2014-March-16, 19:25

I don't see any reason to deviate from the normal lead here. If they can take 13 tricks while a different lead sets them, I will be upset but also know that I did the best I could with the info I had.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 16:14

This was the full deal.



At the table, North found the winning lead of a top heart, gaining his side 8IMPs rather than losing 15, when the other room played 6♥x off two. Well done to those of you who duplicated this.
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Posted 2014-March-31, 02:56

Apparently Geir Helgemo does not read these forums..
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