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Another Judgement Call

Poll: Another Judgement Call (26 member(s) have cast votes)

What to bid?

  1. PASS (11 votes [42.31%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 42.31%

  2. DOUBLE - t/o (8 votes [30.77%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 30.77%

  3. 3S (7 votes [26.92%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.92%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   phil_20686 

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Posted 2014-August-15, 07:06


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Posted 2014-August-15, 07:51

Ugh! No action is right. I think I double and pray.
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Posted 2014-August-15, 08:28

Pd has 4-5 hearts unless RHO is being too passive he has values too. I have good shape and reasonable values all in my long suits and most important I have the boss suit, I ain't passing.

Double or 3 spade are close IMO. I can see myself shooting for both depending on scoring.
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Posted 2014-August-15, 09:08

Form of scoring? And by that, I mean "please tell me it's matchpoints" so I can double without reaching for my vicodin.
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Posted 2014-August-15, 10:01

View Postkenrexford, on 2014-August-15, 07:51, said:

Ugh! No action is right. I think I double and pray.


I'll double and play (3HX).
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Posted 2014-August-15, 15:27

too much offensive potential to let them play 3h. UGHHHH not much
defensive potential in case p wants to convert my

x

to penalties. 3S sends a chill down my spine with such a cruddy suit
especially when our hand is capable of playing in any of the suits
(including a scary 3hx). I prefer a 4h michaels bid to 3s. At the very
least I wont get stuck in spades unless it is our "best" suit.
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Posted 2014-August-15, 19:08

I can't x as I have no defence. My S are awful. What is left other than pass?
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Posted 2014-August-16, 01:34

Doiuble is far too likely to produce -530. I'd bid 3♠.
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Posted 2014-August-16, 11:36

I am waiting for someone to post: "We play weakness-showing non-leaping Michaels 4♦ in balancing position here." I hope I have a long wait.
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Posted 2014-August-16, 19:08

I am waiting for someone to post: "We play weakness-showing non-leaping Michaels 4♦ in balancing position here." I hope I have a long wait.

*** Because it works on the immediate hand??
Or you just don't think 2-suiter take-outs are useful?
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Posted 2014-August-16, 19:57

View Postdake50, on 2014-August-16, 19:08, said:

I am waiting for someone to post: "We play weakness-showing non-leaping Michaels 4♦ in balancing position here." I hope I have a long wait.

*** Because it works on the immediate hand??
Or you just don't think 2-suiter take-outs are useful?

Because of the trend of some to say they play exactly what would work in the given case, when it is doubtful they really do that.

Because in the balancing seat versus 3H, I seriously doubt NLM is a good idea (based on frequency of patterns for balancer).

Because even if NLM is someone's choice, I doubt it also shows an 8-count.
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Posted 2014-August-17, 07:34

Because of the trend of some to say they play exactly what would work in the given case, when it is doubtful they really do that.

Because in the balancing seat versus 3H, I seriously doubt NLM is a good idea (based on frequency of patterns for balancer).

Because even if NLM is someone's choice, I doubt it also shows an 8-count.


*** And because double works here (NOT into 3H-X=) or are you passing (with 4S on)?
Deny the problems shown in the immediate hand, as you wish,
BUT to suggest 2-suiter take-outs won't work when this hand suggests that very agreement wins is head-in-the-sand.
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Posted 2014-August-17, 08:00

Makes me appreciate TheHog more and more.
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Posted 2014-August-17, 13:22

I do play NLM in 4th seat, I think it's right. But as you say, not on an 8-count.
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Posted 2014-August-17, 15:13

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2014-August-17, 13:22, said:

I do play NLM in 4th seat, I think it's right. But as you say, not on an 8-count.


Interesting. I have the agreement to have NLM *off* in the balancing seat to allow us to balance more often (hand with shortness in the preemptor's suit and a long minor suit being, in my experience, more frequent than the 5-5 hand) but I'm now thinking I might be off base? What logic is your thought based on?
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Posted 2014-August-18, 01:35

We don't need any defensive values when partner has 6 defensive tricks himself
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Posted 2014-August-18, 07:42

View Postthe hog, on 2014-August-15, 19:08, said:

I can't x as I have no defence. My S are awful. What is left other than pass?


View Postgnasher, on 2014-August-16, 01:34, said:

Doiuble is far too likely to produce -530. I'd bid 3♠.


One of these for me - depending on mood, I guess. Double seems too likely to end the auction.
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