[apollo1201]

IMPs, all green, playing 15-17 NT, dealer you hold

Jx
AKJx
A9xxx
Qx

I am pretty sure someone raised a same question previously so I apologize if some of you have to repeat. But I dunno how to browse on my tablet...

With more scattered values in the blacks, it would be an easy wtp NT, with a little more HCP (in D especially) it would be an easy reverse, with H and S switched, opening 1D would create no rebidding issues.

However, you were dealt non of the above...

So what would you favor, and does vuln/scoring might change it?

Btw, if you open 1D and partner doesnt punish you by bidding S but bids 1H instead, how high do you raise (we never raise with 3 cd-support, 2H is 12-14, 3H is 15-17 with shortness expected as you didnt open 1NT...well finallynit is back to the start again)?

[wank]

Doubleton honours are perfect for 1nt.

The only issue is whether the hand's too bad (i.e. downgrade to 14). Not for me though.

[akwoo]

1) I open 1N.

2) This hand is worse than

xx
AKxx
AKxxx
xx

Would you raise to 3H on that?

[robert2734]

I open a diamond. If partner bids 1H, I raise to 3H showing 15-17 which is what I have. Over a spade I bid a no trump. If partner has C Axx or C Kxx, we want to play no trump from my side. If partner is 5-4 spades and hearts or 5-4 spades and diamonds he should bid again. Over 2C (not 2 over 1) I bid 2H, not showing extras but partner won't pass.

[1eyedjack]

1) 1N

2) 2H

Yeah, inconsistent. Bite me. On Akwoo's hand 2 I may raise to 3H

[Phil]

1N. Dub honors are nice but the main suit sucks. But its still 15 and we live and die with it.

[PhilG007]

I was taught many moons ago that a 5-4-2-2 distribution pointed to a trump rather
than a NoTrump contract. I would open 1♦ and if partner responded in spades
would 'borrow' a point and rebid 2♥ rather than rebid the skinny diamond suit.

[lycier]

When we open strong 1nt, logically it should deny two doubletons in the hand in the most of situations.


If hold :
♠AKJx
♥Jx
♦A9xxx
♣Qx


It is reasonable for us to open 1♦ then 1♠, don't worry about rebidding.
But for 2452 shapes,it is not easy to handle with rebidding problem. So opening 1NT tends to be the last resort.

[adonis18]

This 7-loser hand might easily be downgraded to 14 p., so you open 1 d and over 1 sp bid 1 nt. Whatever partner bids now you have an answer.

[Phil]

I feel like I've stepped into a time machine and landed in 1973 when I hear things like don't open 1N on 5422 and reverse on a mangy 15.

Next thing I hear will be is that our range should be 16-18!

[fromageGB]

we are delighted to open 1NT or 1C on this shape. What's wrong with doubletons?

[1eyedjack]

PhilG007, on 2016-April-09, 00:58, said:

I was taught many moons ago that a 5-4-2-2 distribution pointed to a trump rather
than a NoTrump contract.

The clue is in the "many moons ago", being when the popularity of that advice died out.

[Zelandakh]

1eyedjack, on 2016-April-08, 21:11, said:

1) 1N

2) 2H

Yeah, inconsistent. Bite me. On Akwoo's hand 2 I may raise to 3H

This, except that I would say akwoo's AK-based hand is an easy 3♥ rebid.

[WesleyC]

Holding the red suits I think a 1NT opening is clear.

[Mbodell]

I open pretty much every 5m422 hand in range 1nt no matter the honor placements. Leads to better auctions IMO (both when we open 1nt and when we don't). And if I'm in a position where I'm debating is this a 1NT opener or a different opener, I'd nearly always rather open 1NT.

[jogs]

fromageGB, on 2016-April-09, 09:20, said:

we are delighted to open 1NT or 1C on this shape.

I hope you meant 1♦.

Quote

What's wrong with doubletons?

Jx and Qx.

WesleyC, on 2016-April-09, 10:33, said:

Holding the red suits I think a 1NT opening is clear.

While the holding in the black suits make 1♦ clear.
How much better is Jx and Qx than xx and xx?

[fromageGB]

jogs, on 2016-April-09, 18:10, said:

I hope you meant 1♦.

Well it would be 1♦ if not playing balanced♣/unbalanced♦. As 1♣ is the 1NT opening for different strengths, I have no compunction with either.

[wank]

PhilG007, on 2016-April-09, 00:58, said:

I would open 1♦ and if partner responded in spades
would 'borrow' a point and rebid 2♥ rather than rebid the skinny diamond suit.

Oh dear. This isn't in the same timezone as a reverse. I presume you've read some book that says a reverse shows 16 points. It doesn't.

[Manastorm]

1NT seems a good idea. Looks like 1NT, if you forget one small diamond. When is it going to matter anyway. I have to make a bigger lie later. 5♦ or more require some effort from partner, why not give him the good news right away. If one card makes partner to missjudge the situation, perhaps he should give me one more chance to value my cards. What else, I have 21/2♥ response to 1♥, an obvious repid problem after 1♠ or 1N.

[NickRW]

Wot Zel said.