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Opps (I/A standard) are playing 5cM, weak NT. Which one of us needed to punish North for vulnerability abuse?
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Posted 2016-September-07, 16:50
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Opps (I/A standard) are playing 5cM, weak NT. Which one of us needed to punish North for vulnerability abuse?
ahydra
Opps (I/A standard) are playing 5cM, weak NT. Which one of us needed to punish North for vulnerability abuse?
ahydra
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Posted 2016-September-07, 18:36
Very normal not to dbl IMO.
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Posted 2016-September-07, 21:36
It doesn't look like you've got more than a part score. So I'm not sure DBL is right here. Any positive is a par result in part score hands at IMPs.
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Posted 2016-September-07, 23:32
Ace said it all.
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Posted 2016-September-08, 01:44
Of course noone has a penalty double but west has a takeout orientated double which is what double should be.
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Posted 2016-September-08, 02:42
East could stretch to a double if his 1♠ overcall could be a lot weaker than this (say 6 HCPs), but W would take it out to 4♠ imo which should show something like this due to his failure to raise before. On a very good day you can make 4♠ but I agree with others that the auction is normal.
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Posted 2016-September-08, 05:29
hi ahydra,
Even though you hold the other three suits between you, North has opened at the one level as opposed to pre-empted, and then bid 4♥ without any help from partner.
Anything can happen with wild(ish) distribution. I'd quietly take a plus score if one exists. No double, no trouble applies both ways.
Even though you hold the other three suits between you, North has opened at the one level as opposed to pre-empted, and then bid 4♥ without any help from partner.
Anything can happen with wild(ish) distribution. I'd quietly take a plus score if one exists. No double, no trouble applies both ways.
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Posted 2016-September-08, 07:37
East can anticipate good defensive prospects in the black suits and a 10 count or so in the west hand.
That said a double would be either inspired or reckless when west also has skewed shape so pass is normal.
That said a double would be either inspired or reckless when west also has skewed shape so pass is normal.
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Posted 2016-September-08, 11:32
I'm not sure I want to double even seeing both defenders' hands! I think the only thing that changes for me seeing both hands is that I table a trump instead of the DJ.
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Posted 2016-September-08, 12:07
Kaitlyn S, on 2016-September-08, 11:32, said:
I'm not sure I want to double even seeing both defenders' hands! I think the only thing that changes for me seeing both hands is that I table a trump instead of the DJ.
This says most of what I wanted to say, every chance declarer has x, AQJxxxx, A, Qxx or similar, and on a diamond lead it's just laydown.
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Posted 2016-September-08, 12:32
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Posted 2016-September-09, 02:25
Thanks all for the replies. I was East, and ggwhiz pretty much summed up my thoughts at the table:
Given that the North player in question does like to bid a lot, and it looked like we had the other three suits covered (plus the fact I've been reading too many Fluffy posts
), my instinct was to double but I wimped out in the end as the hands are clearly distributional and a surprise shortage in dummy could allow not only a ruff but an entry to finesse partner's diamond or something like that. North had ♠5 ♥AKQ8762 ♦A92 ♣75 and we beat 4H by two tricks.
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ggwhiz, on 2016-September-08, 07:37, said:
East can anticipate good defensive prospects in the black suits and a 10 count or so in the west hand.
That said a double would be either inspired or reckless when west also has skewed shape so pass is normal.
That said a double would be either inspired or reckless when west also has skewed shape so pass is normal.
Given that the North player in question does like to bid a lot, and it looked like we had the other three suits covered (plus the fact I've been reading too many Fluffy posts
), my instinct was to double but I wimped out in the end as the hands are clearly distributional and a surprise shortage in dummy could allow not only a ruff but an entry to finesse partner's diamond or something like that. North had ♠5 ♥AKQ8762 ♦A92 ♣75 and we beat 4H by two tricks.ahydra
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