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Ben on BBO - Feedback thread Discussions about Ben models trained on BBO data

#181 User is online   smerriman 

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Posted 2024-November-28, 13:28

View Postlorserker, on 2024-November-28, 11:47, said:

About predictability and consistency I am a bit biased. I like a little randomness, because even when I am playing with my regular partner I am not 100% sure that he has what I think he has and that he would always do the same action. I think it is normal to take some reserve when you play. The robotic consistency which allows you to make inferences which are totally certain, are a bit unappealing to me.

Oh, by consistency I'm not talking about making inferences that are totally certain - you can't even do that with GIB. I mean consistency of methods / styles.

E.g., when my human partner leads against 1NT - 3NT, I make certain assumptions about their lead (often 4th best from longest + strongest), and defend accordingly. If GIB leads, I make different assumptions and defend differently (because I know it works via double dummy situations and is usually trying to avoid conceding a trick).

Likewise, I know what my human partners will lead from AKx against a suit by discussing this in advance (usually the Ace), and I know GIB will lead the K. Or a lead of an ace or king vs notrumps (one specifically should ask to unblock, but which?) - when this happens with a pickup partner, I'm typically guessing and will get a bottom board half the time - partnership agreements are pretty vital.

Sometimes I get it wrong when they each break their own rules, but I get a better and more satisfying result by knowing how partner thinks. I don't know how Ben thinks other than the earlier phrase that keeps coming back into my head ("Ben has no rules").
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Posted 2024-November-28, 16:55

Hello bridge friends, will you please add me to the BEN 8 board daily game? Thank you, Bobby
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Posted 2024-November-29, 02:19

View Postrtfrey, on 2024-November-28, 16:55, said:

Hello bridge friends, will you please add me to the BEN 8 board daily game? Thank you, Bobby


Yes, I did.
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Posted 2024-November-29, 15:30

hi, will you please add me to the Ben 8 hand games? Thanks, Carol
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Posted 2024-November-30, 03:17

Interested to try it out. What about defensive play? What system does Ben use?
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Posted 2024-November-30, 14:13

I would to be included in the BEN bridge game
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Posted 2024-December-14, 09:10

8 down at unfavourable gave me 90% as opps can make 7nt on a finesse, with 6 being easy to bid and make.

Other than the failure to double me, there was also the issue that my partner chose their 3-card clubs over their 5-card hearts

Yes my double is ridicolous I know but that is not what I am complaining about :)

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