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How hard is it to get a consistent plus score in club bridge? I returned to the game this year and I lost every single session.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:57
My partner, who has been around bridge at least as long as I have, put me in a 4-3 fit yesterday. When I mentioned Al Moyse and "Moysian fit", she had no idea what or who I was talking about.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:58
In 4-3 vs 4-2 trumps, there will be one of the following happens:
1. I draw trump and lose control of everything because the last outstanding trump is smaller than theirs, and afterwards they run their suits.
2. I don't draw trump and attempt to play all the side suits. They ruff away our slow winners with small trumps.
I'm talking about situations where we don't have most of the trump honours, for example, we are missing both K and Q in our trump suit.
1. I draw trump and lose control of everything because the last outstanding trump is smaller than theirs, and afterwards they run their suits.
2. I don't draw trump and attempt to play all the side suits. They ruff away our slow winners with small trumps.
I'm talking about situations where we don't have most of the trump honours, for example, we are missing both K and Q in our trump suit.
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Posted Yesterday, 13:02
In that situation your best option is probably to try to set up a cross-ruff. I did that on one hand yesterday, and actually made the contract. Barely. 
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Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
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Posted Yesterday, 13:29
blackshoe, on 2025-April-09, 13:02, said:
In that situation your best option is probably to try to set up a cross-ruff. I did that on one hand yesterday, and actually made the contract. Barely.
That will require a short suit in one hand and another short suit in the other hand, and I don't always have the luxury of this.
More commonly I am forced to play 4-3 fit because an attempt to identify possible NT has failed, and it is because two hands have the same sort suit without stopper, and our only 8-card (or even 9-card) fit is in a minor which has never been bid.
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Posted Yesterday, 13:43
mikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-09, 12:58, said:
In 4-3 vs 4-2 trumps, there will be one of the following happens:
1. I draw trump and lose control of everything because the last outstanding trump is smaller than theirs, and afterwards they run their suits.
2. I don't draw trump and attempt to play all the side suits. They ruff away our slow winners with small trumps.
I'm talking about situations where we don't have most of the trump honours, for example, we are missing both K and Q in our trump suit.
1. I draw trump and lose control of everything because the last outstanding trump is smaller than theirs, and afterwards they run their suits.
2. I don't draw trump and attempt to play all the side suits. They ruff away our slow winners with small trumps.
I'm talking about situations where we don't have most of the trump honours, for example, we are missing both K and Q in our trump suit.
Our experiences differ
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Posted Yesterday, 14:07
mikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-09, 13:29, said:
That will require a short suit in one hand and another short suit in the other hand, and I don't always have the luxury of this.
More commonly I am forced to play 4-3 fit because an attempt to identify possible NT has failed, and it is because two hands have the same sort suit without stopper, and our only 8-card (or even 9-card) fit is in a minor which has never been bid.
More commonly I am forced to play 4-3 fit because an attempt to identify possible NT has failed, and it is because two hands have the same sort suit without stopper, and our only 8-card (or even 9-card) fit is in a minor which has never been bid.
No system is perfect.
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As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
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Posted Yesterday, 19:31
blackshoe, on 2025-April-09, 12:57, said:
My partner, who has been around bridge at least as long as I have, put me in a 4-3 fit yesterday. When I mentioned Al Moyse and "Moysian fit", she had no idea what or who I was talking about.
I get the impression that all of your "hopeless" bridge partners are female, but I guess you've got find a partner somewhere
I haven't heard of Al but I do enjoy playing in moysian fits, or in bad trump breaks. It gives you an opportunity to completely rethink and replan your declarer play. I love that cross ruffing with my little trump.
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