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#1 User is offline   Cyberyeti 

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Posted Yesterday, 12:52

Played a teams event at the weekend, what should have been the most routine board of the day was this one:



As this is the N/B forum, ask yourself how you would handle this if you wre a novice
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Posted Yesterday, 13:04

View PostCyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 12:52, said:

Played a teams event at the weekend, what should have been the most routine board of the day was this one:



As this is the N/B forum, ask yourself how you would handle this if you wre a novice

I've got 25 points and a stopper so will bid 3N, but someone be told me I need 2 stoppers so will X, but the preempter is going down so will Pass. The musing of a N/B😁
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Posted Yesterday, 13:08

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-March-03, 13:04, said:

I've got 25 points and a stopper so will bid 3N, but someone be told me I need 2 stoppers so will X, but the preempter is going down so will Pass. The musing of a N/B😁


You're PARTNERING the preempter not over it
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Posted Yesterday, 14:21

View PostCyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 13:08, said:

You're PARTNERING the preempter not over it

Doh - 5N then or 4N if the NB doesn't know what 5N means looking to correct to 6/7N
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Posted Yesterday, 14:24

This does seem pretty straightforward, even for me. Even N/B players usually have some kind of ace- or keycard-asking bid. Assuming 4NT would be either RKC or old-fashioned Blackwood, I'd bid it, looking for the grand. If I wasn't confident about bidding 4NT, I'd just bid 6NT. Even if I can't follow up with a queen ask, if we have the A, I'm bidding 7NT. (I'm assuming, since we're N/B players, that our preempts are reasonably sound.)
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Posted Yesterday, 14:34

View Postjdiana, on 2025-March-03, 14:24, said:

This does seem pretty straightforward, even for me. Even N/B players usually have some kind of ace- or keycard-asking bid. Assuming 4NT would be either RKC or old-fashioned Blackwood, I'd bid it, looking for the grand. If I wasn't confident about bidding 4NT, I'd just bid 6NT. Even if I can't follow up with a queen ask, if we have the A, I'm bidding 7NT. (I'm assuming, since we're N/B players, that our preempts are reasonably sound.)


This was what I thought, second seat preempt should be fairly sound, we bid 3-4N-5(1/4)-5(Q?)-6(yes)-7N

Partner had AQJxxxx, J, random 3-2 for 14 top tricks, the traveller showed 7 grands, 5 small slams
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Posted Yesterday, 17:37

View PostCyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 14:34, said:

This was what I thought, second seat preempt should be fairly sound, we bid 3-4N-5(1/4)-5(Q?)-6(yes)-7N

Partner had AQJxxxx, J, random 3-2 for 14 top tricks, the traveller showed 7 grands, 5 small slams

No need to ask for the Q. I'd bid 7N without it.
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Posted Yesterday, 18:06

View Postjdiana, on 2025-March-03, 14:24, said:

. (I'm assuming, since we're N/B players, that our preempts are reasonably sound.)

I would not be so sure.
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Posted Today, 03:32

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-March-03, 17:37, said:

No need to ask for the Q. I'd bid 7N without it.


I knew I could claim at trick 1 if he had it
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Posted Today, 05:01

View PostCyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 12:52, said:

Played a teams event at the weekend, what should have been the most routine board of the day was this one:



As this is the N/B forum, ask yourself how you would handle this if you wre a novice

Doesn't vulnerability matter a lot?
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Posted Today, 05:34

View Postbluenikki, on 2025-March-04, 05:01, said:

Doesn't vulnerability matter a lot?

It matters for me as I count 6 tricks at equal vulnerability and the South hand limits where they can be
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Posted Today, 05:42

View Postbluenikki, on 2025-March-04, 05:01, said:

Doesn't vulnerability matter a lot?


It would 1st or 3rd, in 2nd seat with a weak 2/multi available, I would expect the preempt to be sound
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