BBO Discussion Forums: one bid - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

one bid

#1 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,767
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-May-19, 09:11



IMP Pairs
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

"The dog that didn't bark"

"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
0

#2 User is offline   DavidKok 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,183
  • Joined: 2020-March-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Netherlands

Posted 2025-May-19, 09:43

4, though it's also reasonable to bid only 3. This hand is on the dividing line, but I'll go high because of the vulnerability and because I think 3 might be more sound than what I encounter regularly.
0

#3 User is offline   hrothgar 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,724
  • Joined: 2003-February-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Natick, MA
  • Interests:Travel
    Cooking
    Brewing
    Hiking

Posted 2025-May-19, 09:45

I'm in the 3 camp

I will apologize to partner if we make 4
Alderaan delenda est
1

#4 User is online   mw64ahw 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,825
  • Joined: 2021-February-13
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Interests:Bidding & play optimisation via simulation.
    Racket sports

Posted 2025-May-19, 09:46

Yep borderline 3/4, but the singleton tips the balance to 4
0

#5 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,767
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-May-19, 09:53



I don't need to post this, I'm just having a bitch.

I played, some would say badly, in one session of the local sectional this last weekend.
This hand had me stop recording the scores on my sheet. -10.19
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

"The dog that didn't bark"

"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
0

#6 User is offline   DavidKok 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,183
  • Joined: 2020-March-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Netherlands

Posted 2025-May-19, 09:58

It is surprising that there was no heart raise yet partner managed to keep it open. I think 4 is the best way to show this very strong hand on this auction, though partner really shouldn't play us for a hand we've denied.

Sorry if this is wildly different from what happened at the table. I think if there's a difference in how the hand was evaluated no number of bidding rounds is going to produce convergent choices.
0

#7 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,767
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-May-19, 11:06



"though partner really shouldn't play us for a hand we've denied". I didn't

Please, please partners, stop this "I'll show my hand next round" rubbish.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

"The dog that didn't bark"

"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
0

#8 User is offline   DavidKok 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,183
  • Joined: 2020-March-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Netherlands

Posted 2025-May-19, 11:24

That 3 was less sound than what I encounter regularly.
0

#9 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,767
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-May-19, 11:58

View PostDavidKok, on 2025-May-19, 11:24, said:

That 3 was less sound than what I encounter regularly.

Agree
bunny bashing ?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

"The dog that didn't bark"

"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
0

#10 User is offline   Huibertus 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 376
  • Joined: 2020-June-26

Posted 2025-May-19, 12:57

Too good for 3. That should be a 9 card fit with a few random points, to allow partner to bid 4 on a hand that is sensitive to a good fit. 4 for me, Partner should not expect the world as you haven't bid 4 to show a full opening with fit.
0

#11 User is offline   mike777 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,510
  • Joined: 2003-October-07
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2025-May-19, 13:45

View Postjillybean, on 2025-May-19, 09:11, said:



IMP Pairs


3s
why?

for me this is a normal constructive raise..I overbid one level when someone preempts, hope this helps...
0

#12 User is offline   mike777 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,510
  • Joined: 2003-October-07
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2025-May-19, 13:46

View Postjillybean, on 2025-May-19, 11:06, said:



"though partner really shouldn't play us for a hand we've denied". I didn't

Please, please partners, stop this "I'll show my hand next round" rubbish.



agree with others, since I passed now i will bid 4h showing some max hand...for my pass
0

#13 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,767
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-May-19, 13:59

View Postmike777, on 2025-May-19, 13:45, said:

3s
why?

for me this is a normal constructive raise..I overbid one level when someone preempts, hope this helps...

3 is super, any sign of life is super.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

"The dog that didn't bark"

"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
0

#14 User is offline   Cyberyeti 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,857
  • Joined: 2009-July-13
  • Location:England

Posted 2025-May-19, 13:59

1-3-3-P-3N
0

#15 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,767
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-May-19, 14:00

View PostCyberyeti, on 2025-May-19, 13:59, said:

1-3-3-P-3N

why 3n?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

"The dog that didn't bark"

"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
0

#16 User is offline   smerriman 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,706
  • Joined: 2014-March-15
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2025-May-19, 14:05

I agree with the 1 opener. 3, pass, double, and 3 are all equally bizarre.
0

#17 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,767
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-May-19, 14:09

View Postsmerriman, on 2025-May-19, 14:05, said:

I agree with the 1 opener. 3, pass, double, and 3 are all equally bizarre.

What is wrong with X?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

"The dog that didn't bark"

"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
0

#18 User is offline   smerriman 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,706
  • Joined: 2014-March-15
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2025-May-19, 14:13

It shows shortness in hearts and we have 4? We "know" partner has short hearts themselves and couldn't act, so I'll hope for a plus score by passing.
0

#19 User is offline   Cyberyeti 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,857
  • Joined: 2009-July-13
  • Location:England

Posted 2025-May-19, 14:51

View Postjillybean, on 2025-May-19, 14:00, said:

why 3n?


I only have 5 spades, I have a double heart stop, partner will likely pull to 4 with 4, spades might misbehave badly, give partner a good minor suit and I might make 3N with only 3 spade tricks since his points are going to be in the minors.
0

#20 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,767
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-May-19, 22:27

So it's 3N or pass, and passing seems to be very pessimistic.

To be honest, I didn't consider 3N or pass. DSIP X - am I masterminding?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

"The dog that didn't bark"

"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
0

  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

2 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users