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Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day

#1521 User is online   benellis58 

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Posted Yesterday, 19:21

I guess there's no way for North to find a MAJOR-suit fit in his execrable GIBBO system if the opponents interfere. At least we got a decent 86.67 % for making a LUCKY overtrick in our LUCKY slam - a slam TOTALLY bid by the North robot, since South merely opened a perfectly normal 1NT and after that merely did what North told him to do, or honestly answered North's questions.

The slam was "lucky" because we were off the CASHING ace of diamonds and were therefore at the mercy of the club hook, which LUCKILY worked.

The overtrick was "lucky" because West was too STUPID to make the OBVIOUS (given his hand and the auction) lead of the diamond ace.

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Posted Yesterday, 19:29

East's double is silly. Moreover, his hand does not come close to matching the GIB definition of his double, since he does NOT have "7+ HCP" - he has...THREE (!) HCP - a queen (!) and a jack (!), BOTH of which are in his SIX-card suit, a suit where he KNOWS that his partner West has at LEAST three cards.

In short, East's hand does not exactly scream "DEFENCE!"

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Posted Today, 01:17

There's a term called "trash talking". It occurred to me that this is a PERFECT term for talking about GIBBO robots.

Is there any actual REASON for North RUFFING his partner South's HIGH diamond at trick three?

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Posted Today, 02:02

Drury is one of the FEW good things about the execrable GIBBO system...but GIBBO even plays DRURY stupidly!

Over North's 2C Drury bid, South thinks that there might well be a game, but he also thinks that he's not QUITE good enough to unilaterally leap to it, so he decides to solicit input from his partner, North. Consequently, he bids 2D, an artificial call in the GIBBO system that is defined as "Invite to game - 5+ spades; 13-14 total points". It's a GIB definition, so of course it's largely uninformative, but at least (unlike many completely worthless GIB definitions) it does convey the MAIN issue, which is that South is inviting game.

North JUMPS to THREE spades, and we now see why I am writing this particular post. 3S is (ridiculously) defined by GIB as "3+ spades; 11 HCP; 12 total points; forcing". That final word, "forcing", is the key that exposes the otherworldly imbecility of the way these jackasses play Drury.

Consider: The 2C Drury bid in theory showed a limit raise or better in support of South's spades. It can't really be much "better", though, given that North is a PASSED hand. South then INVITED North to bid a game, basically saying, "Pard, with a maximum Drury, please bid 4S, but with a minimum please bid 2S."

It's therefore 100 % CLEAR what North should do with either a maximum (bid 4S!) or a minimum (bid 2S!). Childishly simple. But what if North, like South, is not completely sure what to do? What if HE too has a hand that he thinks is TOO good to sign off in 2S but not QUITE good enough to LEAP to 4S? Would it not make perfect sense to pass the buck back to South by bidding THREE spades, conveying that message and asking SOUTH to decide, with this added information, whether to pass three spades or bid four? Of course it would!

But in the HOPELESS GIBBO system, as stated three paragraphs ago, 3S is "forcing". How does that make ANY sense? If North is FORCING South to bid over THREE spades, he clearly wants to be in game, so why doesn't he just BID the game...now...himself? It's not as if they might bid a SLAM on this hand, given that they have BOTH made (artificial) invitational bids, North with 2C, followed by South with 2D.

Anyway, they end up in 4S, and...make TWO overtricks, thanks to West's robotic LOVE for leading worthless doubletons and his failure to shift after winning his spade king, AND to East's very questionable decision NOT to pop his club ace. Another COMPLETE zero for the two birdbrains to add to their mammoth collection.

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Posted Today, 02:53

The definition of North's double of 3S is "4+ hearts; 5-11 HCP; 6-12 total points". We already knew that he had at least four hearts, because he responded 1H to South's opening 1C bid. So: useless. As for the bit about "total" points: First, it repeats EXACTLY what the definition of his earlier 1H response said, and second, whatever GIB ever says about "total" points might as well always be dumped in a river, because GIB has demonstrated on multiple occasions that it has no understanding whatsoever of total points. So: useless again. The ONLY difference between the definition of this double and the definition of his earlier 1H bid is that it now says "5-11 HCP", whereas the earlier definition of 1H lazily said "11- HCP", rather than putting a lower limit. I guess that would have been too much work for GIB (!) because GIB was expending SO much energy in the definition of 1H by proudly informing us that the 1H response to 1C was "One over one". Oh yeah, THAT was SUPER important. Good grief, could we write WORSE definitions even if we TRIED to?

Also, consider that the GIB definitions are basically RECOMMENDING what they say. Would North REALLY want to double 3S if he had ONLY four hearts and ONLY 5 HCP? No? Then why does the pathetic GIB definition state that he CAN and presumably SHOULD double WITH those defined minimums?

Against 5C, West of COURSE does not lead HIS partnership's suit. Why would he? After all, the incompetent GIBBO robots HATE leading their suits. They LOVE leading the enemy suits, which explains why the poor ignorant stiff led a HEART, NORTH'S suit. Were all GIBBO robots repeatedly dropped headfirst onto a cement floor?

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Posted Today, 05:36

Trick four: Up to this point, not a single club has been played. Declarer North now leads the 2 of clubs towards dummy South's J1095. East plays the queen, which is obviously slated to win the trick. Declarer calls for dummy's 5.

West, (presumably) the "partner" of East (whose club queen is currently winning this trick), has the K843 of clubs. He decides that the best thing he can possibly do is to...overtake (!) his "partner's" queen...with his king and then...IMMEDIATELY fire back his FOUR (!) of clubs (!)from his remaining 843!

One: How the HELL is overtaking his pard's queen...with his own king...while STARING at the remaining J109 (!) in dummy (!) ever going to help?

Two: Why was he in a RUSH to overtake pard's queen of CLUBS...merely to play...of ALL things (!)...ANOTHER club?

Three: Note that he is doing what these fleabrained imbeciles perversely and totally illogically LOVE to do: He is IMMEDIATELY returning the suit that DECLARER played.

Four: In addition to the utter MADNESS that he has just displayed to the WORLD, he can't even return the correct club! He has the 843 left. He should return the 3 (not that it would matter after the unfathomable compression play that he just engineered!), but he returns the 4.

Declarer, with three TOP club losers, loses ONLY two (the ace and the king), as the queen was swallowed by the king...for absolutely NO reason except for the overwhelming, astounding stupidity of the GIBBO robot in the West.

Not ONLY have declarer's THREE club losers magically become only two, but dummy's remaining J10 have QUICKLY become winners, so he has a parking place for his potentially losing heart and does not even NEED the heart finesse anymore.

But there are STILL some BBO members who faithfully advocate for the GIBBO robots. Thay are "better than most human players," these advocates scream from the highest rooftops. Have these advocates ever actually LOOKED at a hand that the GIBBO robots are involved in?

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Posted Today, 06:10

Some people might think I'm too tough on the robots, so to counter that belief, I will happily PRAISE robot North here. Read on to see the wonderful bid he made. But be sure to read this entire post so that you see ALL the praise.

North makes an excellent bid: 2NT. This shows his hand perfectly.

Armed with this knowledge, South bids 3S,,,signing off and (presumably!) ending the auction. He KNOWS North's hand, thanks to North's excellent 2NT bid, so he stops at exactly the right level, in THREE spades.

North, with NOTHING extra, raises to 4S - thereby bidding the SAME values that he ALREADY showed...AGAIN. And...

He doesn't even adhere to (stop me if you've heard this one before!) his own GIB definition, because that definition (of 4S) promises "12+ HCP", which literally means 12-37, since no upper limit is mentioned. Surprise, surprise: North does NOT have 37...or 25...or 18...or 15...or EVEN the promised MINIMUM of 12. He has a mere 10. He does NOT have his bid, and of COURSE he does not have the "13-19 total points" promised by the definition, but then again that's probably immaterial because the world is well aware by now that GIB has no idea about "total" points and ANY GIB reference to "total" points should always be ignored.

THREE spades would have made. FOUR spades goes one down, which is perhaps not shocking, considering that there were FOUR TOP LOSERS.

So, I am PRAISING North for his excellent 2NT bid. WELL done, Sir, well done indeed! Too bad you followed that up with your typically BONEHEADED bid of 4S, you miserable. perpetual LOSER!

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Posted Today, 06:38

West leads his four-card minor instead of his five-card major. Yes, West IS a GIBBO robot.

At trick five, declarer calls for dummy's 8 of clubs...and slides it.

West wins his club jack and IMMEDIATELY fires back a...CLUB!

A CLUB! ALL GIBBO are horrendous "bridge players", but West is a STRONG contender for the title of World's WORST "bridge player". We wish him all the best in his relentless quest for that glorious honour, but it will not be easy, because every single GIBBO robot is quite obviously ALSO aiming for it.

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Posted Today, 13:06

West's 2NT with a "stopper" of J10 doubleton in clubs, the only unbid suit, does not seem wise. I don't know if GIBBO plays FSF by a passed hand, but if not, it probably should, and if so, it certainly would have been a far better choice than 2NT.

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Posted Today, 13:21

PheNOMenally, magnificently STUPID, astoundingly STUPID lead by the always braindead and worthless GIBBO robot in the East. This is the type of lead that I would expect from GIBBO's predecessors, because those utterly repugnant GIB robots were even - hard as this might be to imagine - worse than the current GIBBO pieces of trash.

Fortunately, Lorserker's good work resulted in the GIBBO robots becoming better leaders than the GIB ones were. Don't get me wrong: The GIBBO robots are still horrendous leaders (and still horrendous at ALL aspects of bridge), but at least they are better at them than GIB was...but obviously not always, as this absolute JOKE of an opening lead proves beyond a shadow of a doubt. Please get RID of the GIBBO robots and replace them with COMPETENT ones.

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