Good hand, but how good, exactly?
#1
Posted 2008-February-05, 16:17
you hold:
xxx KQJx x AKJxx
you open 1♣, p responds 1♠. opps remain silent
(i expect lots of WTP replies )
#2
Posted 2008-February-05, 16:43
The hand is close to being too good for 2♠, but other bids are not satisfactory.
If the majors were reversed, and partner bid 1♥ I might rebid 1♠, planning to bid 2♥ next. Here, though, I don't want to reverse then support spades, and rebidding 1NT will not show a stronger hand than the immediate 2♠.
#4
Posted 2008-February-05, 17:38
#5
Posted 2008-February-05, 17:48
#6
Posted 2008-February-05, 17:54
at the table this hand jumped to 3s, p barreled into 6s holding an 18 count with 4 spades and proceeded to go down a couple.
the postmortem consisted of the holder of this hand for chastising partner for insisting on a spade slam holding only 4 cards in the suit.
#7
Posted 2008-February-05, 17:59
#8
Posted 2008-February-05, 18:01
matmat, on Feb 5 2008, 06:54 PM, said:
the postmortem consisted of the holder of this hand for chastising partner for insisting on a spade slam holding only 4 cards in the suit.
3♠ is a joke.
#9
Posted 2008-February-05, 18:04
655321, on Feb 6 2008, 01:01 PM, said:
matmat, on Feb 5 2008, 06:54 PM, said:
the postmortem consisted of the holder of this hand for chastising partner for insisting on a spade slam holding only 4 cards in the suit.
3♠ is a joke.
Not as big a joke as the chastising :-)
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#11
Posted 2008-February-05, 18:49
- hrothgar
#12
Posted 2008-February-05, 19:48
Hannie, on Feb 5 2008, 07:49 PM, said:
It's not that I'm unhappy because I feel it's a close decision, since I don't. I'm unhappy that what is clearly the best option is still a bad option, just not nearly as bad as the others.
#13
Posted 2008-February-05, 21:33
#15
Posted 2008-February-06, 01:01
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
#16
Posted 2008-February-06, 01:06
benlessard, on Feb 6 2008, 02:01 AM, said:
If you had a king more then how is 3♠ possibly better than 2♥ followed by 3♠?
#17
Posted 2008-February-06, 01:31
Quote
agree
When a non-Gf reverse is possible then of course the reverse is better but with
Kxx
x
AKJxx
KQJx
1D---1S
???
Some might consider this hand strong enough for 3C others will bid an heavy 2C but in MP i like my odds in 3S.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
#18
Posted 2008-February-06, 02:14
I feel seriouly out of step on this one, but why is this so? Obviously there is no good bid here, but TWO things are wrong with 2♠ - trumps too weak and the hand too strong. Only ONE thing is wrong with 2♥ - the hand is too weak even though it is not game forcing.
I like the chunky 4-5 hand with all 14 HCP working like crazy plus a useful stiff. Somehow I can envision old-time players like Oswald Jacoby or Terence Reese liking the round suited 4-5 hand much better than today's panel evidently does.
#19
Posted 2008-February-06, 02:15
I feel seriouly out of step on this one, but why is this so? Obviously there is no good bid here, but TWO things are wrong with 2♠ - trumps too weak and the hand too strong. Only ONE thing is wrong with 2♥ - the hand is too weak even though it is not game forcing.
I like the chunky 4-5 hand with all 14 HCP working like crazy plus a useful stiff. Somehow I can envision old-time players like Oswald Jacoby or Terence Reese liking the round suited 4-5 hand much better than today's panel.
#20
Posted 2008-February-06, 02:27