[kgr]

Scoring: MP

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(1♥)-p-(1♠)-2♦
(2♠)-??
 
opps play 4c Major and Strong NT. 1♥=4+
It is MP's!
You have a 9-card fit for your partner, but also have ♠ opposition. Opps are not very strong.
3♦ or pass (....or something else)?
 
Would other vulnerability change your choice?

[whereagles]

If you pass, pard may not find another bid and 2♠ might very well make. Especially if one of the opps has a singleton lurking.

Thus, 3♦. Maybe they bid 3♠ and go down, maybe pard has 6 diamonds and makes it easy... who knows?

[andy_h]

3D. It's very important to tell partner about the fit and enough values to compete. It is true that the KQ is going to be hopeless but how else are you going to fight for the partscore?

[Fluffy]

I don't understand any other bid than 3♦, maybe 2NT makes some sense

[kgr]

Thanks for the answers so far.
Length in suit of opps is always a negative indication for me to raise partner (because opps maybe have already issues in their contract)? This is probably right, but maybe I'm giving it too much weight?
Would you also bid 3D:
- at IMP's
- and with
KQxxx
xx
QTxx
Jx

[Fluffy]

I would normally bid 3♦ in these range with any 3 cards, if you keep giving me 4 cards nothing will stop me from raising.

Not long ago I raised to 3♣ with this cards

xx
Kxx
KQxxx
xxx

(1♦)-ps-(1♥)-2♣
(2♦-3♣!

after ♥Q was led I though I would make 0 tricks, but far from true, partner managed to make 3 tricks with dummy anyway making 4♣.

[Ant590]

Not that this hand is suitable(?), but what would 3♣ and 2NT be for people here (FNJ and better raise to 3♦, perhaps?)

[Fluffy]

2NT natural, 3♣ FNJ since I would had bid lubs naturally otherwise.

[MFA]

3♦. I think it is absolutely terrible to pass because of ♠KQxx. We usually have a 10-card fit, but at least 9.

[Apollo81]

3♦ wtp, when you have 9 or 10 trumps you at least bid 3 over 2.

[kgr]

Scoring: MP

(1H)-p-(1S)-2D
(2S)-all pass

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Thanks for the answers. This was the full hand and bidding. 2S was almost a 0% for NS

[neilkaz]

Pardon me for saying 3♦ and WTP ? and your real problem comes next turn over their 3♠

[the hog]

kgr, on Jan 7 2009, 06:58 AM, said:

Thanks for the answers so far.
Length in suit of opps is always a negative indication for me to raise partner (because opps maybe have already issues in their contract)? This is probably right, but maybe I'm giving it too much weight?
Would you also bid 3D:
- at IMP's
- and with
KQxxx
xx
QTxx
Jx

I would bid 3D at any form of the game at any vulnerability. Pass is unthinkable with that hand.

[Lobowolf]

Very rarely does anything good happen when you let the opponents play 2M with a fit. On a good day, the opponents will make 3, and you'll keep up with the pairs who pushed them up a level. More likely...

They'll make 2, but you'll lose matchpoints to pairs who
A) competed and made something at the 3-level (or 2S over 2H)
competed and set the opponents in 3M
C) competed and went down less than the opponents' partscore.

[OleBerg]

kgr, on Jan 7 2009, 01:58 AM, said:

Thanks for the answers so far.
Length in suit of opps is always a negative indication for me to raise partner (because opps maybe have already issues in their contract)? This is probably right, but maybe I'm  giving it too much weight?
Would you also bid 3D:
- at IMP's
- and with
KQxxx
xx
QTxx
Jx

Just to show what the hand should be like, for me not to raise:

♠ KQxxx
♥ xxx
♦ Q10x
♣ Jx

[Fluffy]

I would raise with that Ole, at least at my club where they autobid 3♠.

[neilkaz]

Fluffy, on Jan 8 2009, 06:24 AM, said:

I would raise with that Ole, at least at my club where they autobid 3♠.

Me too, and I doubt at MP's that you'll score all that well if you try to defend 2♠x and hopefully my opps will be in 3♠x where I will take my shot at hurting them at MPs.

[OleBerg]

Fluffy, on Jan 8 2009, 02:24 PM, said:

I would raise with that Ole, at least at my club where they autobid 3♠.

And there is no risk of partner bidding 4♦? He is quite likely void in spades.

[kgr]

Thanks for the answers.
My partner passed with this hand and he almost convinced me that it could have been good with his long ♠.

[Fluffy]

OleBerg, on Jan 8 2009, 04:43 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 8 2009, 02:24 PM, said:

I would raise with that Ole, at least at my club where they autobid 3♠.

And there is no risk of partner bidding 4♦? He is quite likely void in spades.

I hate it but yes, she uses to do it GRRRRRRR