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Poll: What do you open? (29 member(s) have cast votes)

x AKJTxxx xxx xx

  1. 3 Hearts (8 votes [27.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.59%

  2. 4 Hearts (21 votes [72.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 72.41%

  3. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

Jx AKJTxxx xx xx

  1. 3 Hearts (21 votes [72.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 72.41%

  2. 4 Hearts (6 votes [20.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.69%

  3. Something else (2 votes [6.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.90%

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Posted 2012-September-13, 05:54

Hand 1:
♠x
♥AKJTxxx
♦xxx
♣xx

Hand 2
♠Jx
♥AKJTxxx
♦xx
♣xx

You dealt, white vs red.

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View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2012-September-13, 06:49

They both look like a perfect textbook 3♥ to me, although i am aware that the fashion lately is to preempt 1 level higher at these colors and i like it. Whatever i choose, i would never argue with someone who chooses the other though. I think best is whatever your pd is expecting you to hold at these colors.

I would just open them both 4♥ to be honest at these colors. I am not very strong on 2nd hand though, i am just saying what i would do at the table.
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Posted 2012-September-13, 07:01

they are both roughly a 3h bid however hand 1 has the extra
potential to cause an error in opps estimation of their hand
and that seems to make it worth the extra level.
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Posted 2012-September-13, 07:09

I am old, boring and bad, so I use my textbook calls for textbook calls.
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Posted 2012-September-13, 08:11

View PostCodo, on 2012-September-13, 07:09, said:

I am old, boring and bad, so I use my textbook calls for textbook calls.


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I hear ya, i am getting there too..too fast :)
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Posted 2012-September-13, 10:21

View PostCodo, on 2012-September-13, 07:09, said:

I am old, boring and bad, so I use my textbook calls for textbook calls.


I'm older, anal retentive, worse and love it when pard bids 3nt. If they bid say 4♠ I'll bid 4nt.
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Posted 2012-September-14, 05:58

I'd open 3♥ on default, but this is the kind of hand I'd open 4♥ if my opponents are clearly better than the field (MPs) or clearly better than my team mates (IMP Team Match)
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Posted 2012-September-14, 18:03

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Posted 2012-September-14, 18:11

The first is an obvious 4H at this vul, the second is 3H for me as I dislike a 7222 shape.
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Posted 2012-September-14, 18:14

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I'm older, anal retentive, worse and love it when pard bids 3nt. If they bid say 4♠ I'll bid 4nt.


Really? You would double cross your partner like that?
Your pd may have bid 3NT on Qxx of H and nothing else for starters.
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Posted 2012-September-14, 18:15

As noted by many friends above, both are textbook 3-bids. Rule of 2-3-4.
However, on hand 1 they have one more ♠ to play with, and I want to take space out of their auction. I will open 4♥ primarily to make their slam finding apparatus harder to start.
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Posted 2012-September-15, 03:05

I'd open 4H on 2713 as well, it doesn't have to be a singleton spade.
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Posted 2012-September-15, 05:01

How is 3H a textbook bid with 7321 and AKJTxxx of hearts w/r? Seems like a textbook 4H
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Posted 2012-September-15, 23:16

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-September-15, 05:01, said:

How is 3H a textbook bid with 7321 and AKJTxxx of hearts w/r? Seems like a textbook 4H

Perhaps textbooks come in a range of quality - ;)
Perhaps better said: Rule based preempts - and we all know what happens with unthinking adherence to rules...
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