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Posted 2012-September-16, 03:41

I went off in this one, how will you play?

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and the 8 of diamonds was led.

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Posted 2012-September-16, 05:16

contract doesn´t look very promising, I would go for spade fineses. Run J, win continuation probably with A and overtake 9 with the 10, I don´t care much of spades beeing 2-4 since LHO will ruff with a heart honnor that is behind KJ, once in dummy after ruffing the spade play a heart, will regain entry later ruffing the diamond.
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Posted 2012-September-16, 08:25

How about combining chances along these lines:
Win AQ
J to A (they could cover)
K dropping 9
ruff
Q ruff if covered, pitch 4th if not
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win/trump in Dummy if possible,
trump to J if necessary

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Posted 2012-September-17, 02:36

So the actual layout is



and to make you need to ruff a club at trick two. Its actually very hard to envisage making layouts if the spades are not 3-3. And if you play on spades you typically need to pick up the hearts somehow, so its all very tricky. Maybe you should just play for east to be 3334, in which case you can make on the completel cross ruff: ruff club, diamond, ruff club, diamond pitch spade, As spade ruff club ruff spade ruff club ruff = ten tricks.

I have no idea if this is better. But I am coming to be of the opinion that it is probably is.
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Posted 2012-September-17, 03:51

View Postphil_20686, on 2012-September-17, 02:36, said:

So the actual layout is



and to make you need to ruff a club at trick two. Its actually very hard to envisage making layouts if the spades are not 3-3. And if you play on spades you typically need to pick up the hearts somehow, so its all very tricky. Maybe you should just play for east to be 3334, in which case you can make on the completel cross ruff: ruff club, diamond, ruff club, diamond pitch spade, As spade ruff club ruff spade ruff club ruff = ten tricks.

I have no idea if this is better. But I am coming to be of the opinion that it is probably is.

Interesting hand and good analysis.
I also believe a club ruff at trick 2 is your best chance though it looses against some favorable trump layouts.
It is not so hard to envisage some layouts where your line wins even against spade not breaking e.g.



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