[foobar]

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Pard's weak 2s are generally sensible and should normally show 6 at this vul. What's your plan for this hand? How high will you bid if they compete?

[Mbodell]

I think it is close between 6♠ being 50/50 or not. If partner's preempts are good, and diamond honors figure to be in partner's hand or RHO hand not LHO, seems like we should have reasonable play. We might have trouble getting to partner's hands enough though, and we might risk a diamond ruff, especially if we can't pull trumps due to heart losers in partner's hand. But I think I'd try 6♠ if partner's preempts are indeed sensible.

[rmnka447]

If partner's weak 2s are "sensible", then partner likely has a ♠ holding headed by the ♠ K/KJ/KJ10 and some outside values. The problem is that you don't know where partner's outside values are. At this level (above 4 ♥), there's no way to identify them.

If partner has bid 2 ♠ on something like ♠ KJ10xxx ♥xx ♦ Ax ♣ xxx, a ♠ slam is excellent. But if partner holds something like♠ KJ10xxx ♥Ax ♦ xx ♣ xxx, 4 ♠ may be the last makeable contract.

Additionally, partner might have some extra length if the ♠ texture isn't as good -- K109xxxx vs. KJ10xxx. That extra length raises the possibility of a spade ruff if you choose to play in ♦.

When the opponents have preempted, the first priority is to land in a "good" spot versus a "perfect" spot. While you wish you could find slam if it's there, the "good" vs. "perfect" spot is 4 ♠.

[hrothgar]

foobar, on 2015-February-22, 03:24, said:

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Pard's weak 2s are generally sensible and should normally show 6 at this vul. What's your plan for this hand? How high will you bid if they compete?

Bidding 6♠

Diamonds rate to be in the pocket.

[helene_t]

hrothgar, on 2015-February-22, 11:31, said:

Bidding 6♠

Diamonds rate to be in the pocket.

Yes but if we get a heart lead and p has two or three hearts, we may need to ruff the second heart with ♠Q which means that a spade holding like Jxx or Txxx by LHO may give us a trump loser. We could also suffer a diamond ruff.

Anyway, I bid 6♠ too. Should have reasonable chances.

[suokko]

6♦ anyone?

That looks like having chance to be our best slam reasonably often.

[Zelandakh]

helene_t, on 2015-February-22, 12:02, said:

Yes but if we get a heart lead and p has two or three hearts, we may need to ruff the second heart with ♠Q which means that a spade holding like Jxx or Txxx by LHO may give us a trump loser.

We could try bidding hearts first and then follow up with 6♠. I doubt the opps are bidding 7♥ at these colours.

[Phil]

I like 5♥. The ♦A plus expected good spades gives us around 15 tricks.

Assuming partner doesn't fess up to the Ace, I don't relish partner being board locked immediately but I expect something for the sound weak 2 besides KJxxxx. Either minor suit Q helps or the ♥K stops the taps to my hand.

[ggwhiz]

First seat red, that weak 2 is cold for slam in my partnership barring an unlucky diamond ruff.

I like the idea of 5♥ looking for the grand. Partner wouldn't cue a diamond void would they?

[P_Marlowe]

Just bid it.

Given the support, X is out, 5S is not enough, and we wont get partner excited, if he just holds
the Queens in spade an diamond, hence just bid 6S.

[kuhchung]

4S. have I underbid in enough threads yet?

[mikeh]

I think Phil nailed it.

Bid 5♥. If partner has KJ10xxx and the diamond Ace, he has to bid 6♦ along the way.

If he bids 5♠, regressive, we still have to bid the small slam. It may fail...the point about being dummy locked is valid.

However, assuming the 4♥ call shows solid hearts...and what else could it be given our hand.... partner should hold a minor suit Queen and we rate to have a decent play even if it is the club Q. RHO will hold the diamond Ace and it is highly unlikely that it is LHO with a stiff, such that we fail on a diamond ruff.

Anybody who bids 4♠ doesn't deserve to be dealt good hands.

[kuhchung]

[mikeh]

kuhchung, on 2015-February-25, 14:28, said:

[Zelandakh]

mikeh, on 2015-February-25, 14:26, said:

I think Phil nailed it.

[kuhchung]

Zelandakh, on 2015-February-25, 19:02, said:

[mikeh]

Zelandakh, on 2015-February-25, 19:02, said:

Okay.....I gave you an up vote as well, even tho your post wasn't as clear as phil's

[Free]

I would just bid 6♠. You can go the scientific way but that's uncharted territory for many, hence an interesting topic.

[Zelandakh]

mikeh, on 2015-February-25, 20:14, said:

Okay.....I gave you an up vote as well, even tho your post wasn't as clear as phil's

[foobar]

Thanks for the responses.

6♠ was cold with opener's hand and the opponents had an improbable profitable sacrifice in 7♥ (down 2, losing 2 ♣s).

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