[jillybean]

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MP

[hrothgar]

jillybean, on 2025-May-19, 08:34, said:

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MP

1♥

perhaps 2♦, but today 1♥

(don't have strong objections to pass)

[jillybean]

hrothgar, on 2025-May-19, 08:38, said:

1♥

perhaps 2♦, but today 1♥

(don't have strong objections to pass)

it's the n/b forum, please elaborate

[Huibertus]

1NT, take out the 1♥/1♠ bid of either opponent Then hope partner bids a very aggressive 3♦ for you to pass on, and you've probably stolen the part score. Not enough strength for 2♣ not enough ♦ to support ♦. Psyching 1♥/♠ as someone seems to (jokingly?) suggest could see partner simply raising it to 4. Pass is an option, but you need to be sure of your partnerships upper limit for a 1 opening.

[jillybean]

Huibertus, on 2025-May-19, 08:58, said:

1NT, take out the 1♥/1♠ bid of either opponent Then hope partner bids a very aggressive 3♦ for you to pass on, and you've probably stolen the part score. Not enough strength for 2♣ not enough ♦ to support ♦. Psyching 1♥/♠ as someone seems to (jokingly?) suggest could see partner simply raising it to 4.

1♥ is not a psych

[hrothgar]

Huibertus, on 2025-May-19, 08:58, said:

1NT, take out the 1♥/1♠ bid of either opponent Then hope partner bids a very aggressive 3♦ for you to pass on, and you've probably stolen the part score. Not enough strength for 2♣ not enough ♦ to support ♦. Psyching 1♥/♠ as someone seems to (jokingly?) suggest could see partner simply raising it to 4. Pass is an option, but you need to be sure of your partnerships upper limit for a 1 opening.

1♥ is not intended as a psych. I think that its a good description of the hand.
I'd consider the bid absolutely clear cut if the red suit holdings were reversed.

If partner raises to three or even four hearts, I expect this to have good play.

To me, at least, 1NT promises real values. It's one of the bids that I would never consider.
I think that pass is much better.

I also think that 2♦ is more than reasonable. Partner rates to have four hearts.

Please note, my club length is the main reason that I am not bidding 2♦.
My club length increases the chance that partner holds the dread 4=4=3=2 pattern.

Even so, I don't consider 2♦ at all unreasonable.

[DavidKok]

1NT, with pass being a worse second option. I've already been accused of masterminding so I'll refrain from showing 4(+)♥ with 1♥ or 10-11 HCP with 2♦. Most people also require four diamonds to raise, especially if 1♦ is regularly only 4 cards.

Your 1♦ style matters here, as does your 2♣ style with primary diamonds.

As a bonus, 1NT promises (for some people 'promises') 4(+)♣ and commonly denies four diamonds. Partner should be in a good position to decide what to do.

Not N/B:

Spoiler

You can play that 1♦-1NT; 2♣ shows 3(+) clubs unbal and still never miss your minor suit fit. Such a fun and completely natural 'gadget'! And useful too for those misfit minimum reverse 5431's.

[mw64ahw]

DavidKok, on 2025-May-19, 09:50, said:

As a bonus, 1NT promises (for some people 'promises') 4(+)♣ and commonly denies four diamonds. Partner should be in a good position to decide what to do.

It does for me 4/5♣. With 6 I bid them.

[mike777]

1NT

strangely the bid so seldom comes up, I would think it would more often since I play it as such a wide range.

[jillybean]

I prefer 1nt to pass, but with xx, Jxx in the majors, I'm far more comfortable with 1H
Where are the spades, and the rest of the hearts?

[AL78]

I play in Acol weak NT land so 1NT 6-9 HCP denies 4CM.

[thepossum]

My first inclination was pass
Chance that South will bid and see what happens next

I have had a worse 1 diamond hand

And TBH I prefer not to be playing 1NT

[pescetom]

I can't imagine anything other than 1NT or Pass, and not just because this is N/B forum.

I would choose 1NT, partner opened in 4th seat and I trust her to have a good reason.

[Cyberyeti]

pescetom, on 2025-May-20, 12:35, said:

I can't imagine anything other than 1NT or Pass, and not just because this is N/B forum.

I would choose 1NT, partner opened in 4th seat and I trust her to have a good reason.

Should have a good reason playing what I play as 1N in 4th seat is 11-bad 14 ish

Would bid 1N

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2025-May-19, 14:03, said:

I prefer 1nt to pass, but with xx, Jxx in the majors, I'm far more comfortable with 1H
Where are the spades, and the rest of the hearts?

1NT.

I have no idea, how the majors are distributed, it does not matter.
I try to describe my hand. 1NT denies 4 card in either major, it will also deny a 5th
diamond, and it showes 6-10.
Given this, when I look at my hand, this description comes pretty close.
I am happy, when the description I make, matches my hand, ... if forced, I can invent
bids, painting something I dont hold, but I prefer to do this, when I know more about the
layout.

If you dont like 1NT, pass, opener is somewhat limited, ..., depends a bit how conservative
you open 2C / 2NT, anything else is Masterminding, and if you play with a N/B, will
only lead to disaster.

[mikl_plkcc]

A clear pass to me.

[akwoo]

I think it's a clear 1N. -100 is better than -110. Can always run to 2C if they double.

[thepossum]

Just commenting again
I am rather surprised at so many bidding 1NT with that hand
Partner could be quite light and flat. You have no cover in most suits
All your honours are queens and jacks
Opps could have more points
I'm hoping maybe South will bid and partner can describe their big hand better next time round